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But where are the super rich? An average of $117,500 is an upper-middle income, not at all representative of a rich cohort, let alone a super rich one. All such reports about income distribution are based on U.S. Census Bureau surveys that regularly leave Big Money out of the picture. A few phone calls to the Census Bureau in Washington D.C. revealed that for years the bureau never interviewed anyone who had an income higher than $300,000. Or if interviewed, they were never recorded as above the "reportable upper limit" of $300,000, the top figure allowed by the bureau's computer program. In 1994, the bureau lifted the upper limit to $1 million. This still excludes the very richest who own the lion's share of the wealth, the hundreds of billionaires and thousands of multimillionaires who make many times more than $1 million a year. The super rich simply have been computerized out of the picture.

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Originally posted by soleran30
Socialism of course!

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Originally posted by Deano
fascism is where we are heading. we are well on the way

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Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Well I watched it through... I've heard most of it before...

So deano Whats the answer then??? If they got rid of bush tommorrow what govenment should they put in place?

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what can we do?

Here's what?

* Capture control of the currency.

Without this step, freedom can never be real, because no truly humane system of governance can ever be implemented as long as the same greedy crooks retain control of the world's money. As long as ordinary people have no input into how that money is used, denominated, accumulated or distributed, the chances for peace in the world and happiness for its people are absolutely nil.

At present, more than 90 percent of the world's wealth, in a world of six billion people, is controlled by less than 10,000 individuals, mostly from two dozen families who can trace their bluebloody lineage back many hundreds of years. At the head of the line is the Rothschild family, which controls all the others. It has been estimated that the aggregate Rothschild wealth is at a minimum 5,000 times greater than the annual gross national product of the United States, although it's difficult to calculate, because the Rothschild octopus (and its loyal lieutenants of the Rockefeller family) literally own the U.S. money supply, the Federal Reserve, and all the major banks of the Western world.

Many communities around the country, such as Ithaca, N.Y., have already begun implementing their own alternative currency systems, but the vast majority of Americans are trapped in a financial system that will consume the assets of almost everyone should it ever collapse, or sag significantly, an event which many knowledgable observers think is imminent.

So when Bush the Younger drops a quick $78 billion on Iraq to be split up among his rich corporate friends, this is mere pocket change to the Rothschilds, about the size of a decent dinner tip relative to the immoral profit it will bring from the deaths of thousands of innocent victims.

The world's people - and most especially Americans - need to realize that to these people, you are nothing more than an expendable ant, to be crushed without thinking should you get in their way. With all of the inexplicably irresponsible spending done by the Bush administration, that day is rushing towards us headlong. Perhaps it's only weeks away.

And following this train of thought you begin to realize that it doesn't really matter how you cast your vote for president. And I'm not talking about vote fixing, or the computerized rigging of the elections. These combined examples of criminal fraud in Florida and Ohio are actually irrelevant distractions, because in an American presidential election, it doesn't matter who wins because the same people always stay in power. It has been that way throughout the 20th century, since the international bankers seized control of the American money supply in 1913.

Of course, merely contemplating the capture of the world's money supply means considering the complete disintegration of the world's financial networks, which are inextricably intertwined with the cancerous Rothschild octopus, and rescuing control of the currency from these criminals would result in the instant collapse of almost every government on Earth.

Who would accomplish such a fantastic feat? Who would control the new system? Would the world revert into piratical barbarism? Probably. But that's what we have now, only with a smile for the cameras, which are owned by the pirates in control.

This process, should it make any headway, would take a century or more, and be accomplished gradually, as states around the world recalibrate their objectives from pure profit to sensible self-sufficiency and actualized independence.

Of course, with heartless predators like the United States manipulating all these little countries into bankruptcy at every opportunity, there would be difficult times. But they would not be as difficult as the situation now, where the New York and London banks immorally reap the lion's share of profits for the labor of most of the people on the planet.

The tradeoff has always been security or liberty. Ben Franklin still has the last word on this: "Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Sooner or later, we all have to bite the bullet and decide that we don't want to be slaves to the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, or it's curtains for freedom.

Which leads us to the second essential step toward promoting real freedom in the world ...

* Identify the real power structure.

Some silly Americans thought they actually had a choice during the 2004 elections. Right, ace, with two guys from the same college fraternity as the choices. Which makes all this handwrung consternation about Ohio recounts as useless as the peace demos prior to America's invasion of Iraq.

Bulletin to all Americans (and whomever else may care to listen): we are well past the point where influencing public opinion is going to stop the people in control of practically the whole world from doing exactly what they want to do.

The main difference between the Vietnam-era protests and what happened in the late winter of 2003 was that the entire media spectrum in the United States had been locked down by the corporations, which was not the case in the 1960s. The anti-Vietnam protests succeeded in bringing the war back home because it got on TV. That is definitely not happening today.

Most Americans don't know that U.S. troops had orders to kill everyone in Fallujah, whether old and infirmed or young and harmless, or that we essentially destroyed the whole city (and for no particular reason).

Even though a lot of Americans are becoming suspicious that everytime Rumsfeld's boys need a justification for some new atrocity, they just trot out a new Osama bin Laden video, whose on-cue performances have helped many people reach the horrifying realization that the U.S. war on terror was created in Washington, and bin Laden, who was once known as Tim Osman, is definitely on the U.S. payroll.

But then, identifying who the real players are has always been difficult in media-drugged, flag-waving America, which is thumping the world to death with its unopened Bibles.

If you think George Bush or Dick Cheney is running the show, then you are woefully undereducated - which is the mental status of most people in America.

Notable midwife to tyranny Henry Kissinger is the chief lieutenant of David Rockefeller, who is the American commisar of the Rothschild empire, which runs just about everything. There are no real enemies, only those created by the powers that be to create the chaotic conditions to both cull the population and profit from the sales of weapons to both sides. It has been that way throughout the 20th century, and doubtless long before.

Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany were funded by Jewish bankers in America and England. The Bush family was one of the primary benefactors of these maneuvers. They are trusted stooges of the big money players - Queens Elizabeth and Juliana and Sofia - and the banking giants of both Wall and Fleet streets. John Kerry's Jewish father was a CIA agent and he married a Forbes girl (the Forbes family, with Jewish ties, being one of the richest criminal American families of the 19th century, profiting from both slavery and drug sales to China).

Maybe, if you have the time, and any interest in your own freedom, you should to a little reading.

So you begin to see, when people ask me, "What can I do?" to oppose or combat this insanity that has wrapped itself around America's spinal cord like some demonic Stargate Goa-uld, it's difficult to toss back quick answers. Certainly supporting Dennis Kucinich didn't get us very far, did it?

We didn't get into this mess overnight, and it won't end for a long time, if ever. In the meantime, because of the lack of attention and cultivation of naivete and gullibility over time, we are deep into a tyrannical scenario where we do not have control over our own lives and have placed people in charge of our welfare who mean to kill off many millions of us, simply to make their own situation more comfortable.

This assessment can no longer be in doubt.

So what can we do?

How about you tell me?

Tell me true, noble citizen. What ARE you going to do when they come for you?

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These are impossible questions, ones which I cannot answer. Perhaps one of you can.

What do we do when the very people supposed to be protecting us are actually harming us? Robbing us, poisoning us, deliberately asphyxiating us, putting things in our water that make us docile, giving us foods and medicines that make us sick, and in general preventing us from living our lives in what we believe is a normal manner.

What do we do when the society in which we live prevents us from being moral? Or from telling the truth as we see it? What do we do when our society encourages us not question statements that we know in our hearts to be lies?

What do we do when our TV and newspapers tell us lies but insist we should regard this information as truth? What do we do when the vast majority of people in our society accepts these lies as truths and ridicules us when we call these statements lies?

What do we do when we have a legitimate grievance and can't get it redressed without bribing somone? What do we do when we can't trust our courts? How are we to respond when we learn that a private company controls all of our money? Or that the government has the right to poison your baby before you take her home from the hospital?

What do we do when the leader of our country, the occupant of the most prestigious office in the world, is a pill-popping psychopath with no discernible personality whose favorite hobby is killing large numbers of people, either by signing death warrants to execute mentally defective miscreants or ordering airstrikes against innocent women and children tens of thousands of miles away?

What do we do when all those around him, including the so-called political opposition, seem to agree with everything he says and does, and otherwise act as if this demented demagogue pathologically predisposed to obliterating the whole world is actually a normal human being?

It used to be the American way dictated if you didn't like the way the government worked, you could go to the polls and vote for an opposition candidate who promised to change things. What do we do when all the candidates who are running for every office are all basically saying the same thing and endorsing all the harmful things that are being done?

What do we do when the concept of one person, one vote has been completely destroyed by computerized voting machines that no one can verify, except the companies that own them, which are themselves owned by rich white men who support the man who got the votes that no independent agency is able to authenticate?

What do we do we when can't trust the food we eat, the air we breathe, the water we drink, or the medicines we take to make us well? How are we to regard these efforts to criminalize vitamins and other health foods when the doctors we go to prescribe medicines that are less effective than those beneficial substances they have worked so hard to ban?

What do we do when our nation decides to go into a state of permanent war, choosing hapless countries to attack and then obliterating them, then fleeces its own citizens with devious legislation that funnels billions of dollars to companies to reconstruct what we've just destroyed for reasons we later learn were transparent lies? How are we to regard such a country, such a group of men who would do such a thing to their fellow human beings?

And how are we to regard ourselves for believing and supporting such insane and inhuman policies?