its official. bush can set the standards of torture, he can detain/torture anyone, and any american....forever if he wishes.
the "bias liberal" AP shrugs off any possibility of abuse of power, like the good little whores that they are:
its over. we have officially lost the moral high ground. we will be torturing people with the same methods of which japanese interrigators were charged as criminals after WW2. and this is what will be on record not only that, but as the case with the iraq war, our utterly useless congress and house approves an unconditional bill based on "trust me, ill do the right thing".
the brutality which will be committed from this point will be what smears our image for generations to come, and i hope that as was the case in germany after their defeat, every fukwit who blindly trusted this man will be marched into the prison camps to witness the attrocities they blindly supported
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I heard some Republican - it may even have been Bush himself - on CNN saying "anyone who doesn't agree with this measure wants terrorists to kill Americans"...hahahahahahaha...Oh, wait; it's not funny.
Based on this quote, I don't think you even know what the term 'moral high ground' means.
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hmm... just offhand, I'd say it means holding ourselves to a higher "moral" standard than the other guy. It means our position is more inherently right.
Personally I'd think we'd lose the moral high ground if we didn't do everything in our power to eliminate those who want to kill americans.
Just as an offhand comment, how do liberals justify making any comments about the moral high ground when they at the same time are big about moral equivalency and that other systems are just as good as ours?
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I see that your comprehension of 'moral high ground' strangely parallels your government's belief that their way is the right way because it serves Americans, while showing utter disdain for the how the rest of the world believes other human beings should be treated. That's nice. Going about things in that manner will surely make the world a better place...
Just like Bush proclaims it will.
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The funny thing is that he's sticking that finger up the ass of America, too. The even funnier thing is that people like you don't get it.
Ha.
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For all in this thread who seem to have a problem with being tough to those who have no problem beheading people on T.V. and showing us the footage to watch them scream as their throats are sliced.....
Stand aside whilst the men do what needs to be done, ya pussies.
I really don't see how torturing people helps, how disobeying the laws every civilized country in this world agreed with except for the US helps, how lowering yourself to the level of your opponents and sometimes worse helps, perhaps i'm missing the picture here. But this is torture and there is a reason why its illegal and there is a reason why after most wars in the past people have been trialed and often executed for crimes like this.
If the US would submit its leaders to the International court in The Hague almost everyone of them would be trialed and probably be found guilty of crimes against humanity. The US isn't doing what's necessary.
I do think Bush is a dumbass for announcing it to the world. If you're gonna torture people, then keep it on the DL, don't put it on a neon sign for all to see.
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thats great. so when they retaliate by televising medival remenicant tourture, we should up the ante too. then when they start killing babies, we'll do the same. its ok when we do it, cuz we're AMURICAN!!!!!!!!!!!