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Bicnarok
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The Pioneer Anomaly

This is an interesting article. The Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft are not where they are supposed to be. They appear to be being held back by something. maybe its "muddy" out there ie more dust and stuff which slows them down, or the universe actually ends at our Solar systems border and all the other stars are just wallpaper eek!

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This is an interesting article. The Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft are not where they are supposed to be. They appear to be being held back by something. maybe its "muddy" out there ie more dust and stuff which slows them down, or the universe actually ends at our Solar systems border and all the other stars are just wallpaper eek!

More HERE


I would guess some sort of friction, like you said "space dust"... I can see the religious nuts though using this as "proof" of God and Heaven.


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It's most likely a bullshit story. The Pioneer probes 10 and 11 were launched in '72 and '73 to investigate Jupiter, passing by Saturn on the way there. They had a known limited 'live expectancy', but continued to send back transmissions years after, while they traveled outside of our solar system.
The last transmissions occurred in 2003 (way beyond expectations), and all following attempts to make contact or to locate the probes were unsuccessful.
They just ran out of batteries, that's all. Nasa was even lucky that they lasted that long.


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nice article...perhaps lessening effect of solar wind...although i guess they would have took that into consideration

although i'm guessing they couldn't compensate for dark matter cause it's technically "unknown" seeing as it hasn't been proven to exist...you would think given that its theorized that it contains most of the mass and energy of the universe that it would exert some effect that is unquantifiable


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nice article...perhaps lessening effect of solar wind...although i guess they would have took that into consideration

although i'm guessing they couldn't compensate for dark matter cause it's technically "unknown" seeing as it hasn't been proven to exist...you would think given that its theorized that it contains most of the mass and energy of the universe that it would exert some effect that is unquantifiable


Strangely, what you say makes sense.

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Strangely, what you say makes sense.


i'm glad i do that...sometimes...


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It's the Galactic Community's way of making sure we humans don't spread any more of our garbage out beyond our own neighborhood.

That, or some software/hardware problem.


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maybe the technique they use to locate them is flawed. Maybe the microwave signals are bend somehow because of something (brown dwarf?) to give a false readings.

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maybe the technique they use to locate them is flawed. Maybe the microwave signals are bend somehow because of something (brown dwarf?) to give a false readings.


I was thinking something along those same lines...but the anomaly would have to suddenly show up in the data at a specific point in order for that to be true. (Both a positive pull and a negative pull would show up as the probe approached the dwarf and then passed the dwarf’s relative orbit…also, if the brown dwarf is outside our solar system…then the probe would speed up, change directions, etc.) Also, the "blip" in the data would be periodic due to the orbit with the brown dwarf. Also, this brown dwarf would also be messing with the planetary orbits of the planets...it would be measurable...this might be true because I don't think they have fully accounted for Uranus's "equator side up" orbit yet from just Neptune’s mass...they think or used to think there was something else out there...

When did the anomaly start showing up in the transmission data?

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When did the anomaly start showing up in the transmission data?


Good question, havn´t found out yet. I heard the reports early this week but it may be information from a while ago.

Its all a bit confusing because ive just read by wikipedia that they havn´t been able to contact either probe since 1995. Can they locate them without making contact?

Its was the analysis of the radio tracking data from the spacecraft at distances between 20–70 AU from the Sun which indicated the presence of the small but anomalous Doppler frequency drift. Maybe the analysis took a while..

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