__________________ In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during an interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said:
"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out."
__________________ "The difficult task of knowing another soul is not for young gentlemen whose consciousness is chiefly made up of their own wishes."
George Eliot.
ADarksideJedi is very much against gay marriage and depending on when you catch her against homosexuality, thinking it is anything from a choice that is against God to a mental illness to both at the same time.
How people choose to have a mental illness is something she never really clarified. Ergo the idea is more horrific then ironic to her.
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From even the greatest of horrors irony is seldom absent.
I seriously doubt gay marriage was allowed as such, two man living together may have been allowed, but I don't think they would have been able to openly come out and claim they had a relationship with each other, with the power of the Catholic church at that moment in Europe I don't think it would have made them very popular...
I didn't read the article, but my assumption would be that people were no more accepting of male homosexuality in the past than they are today. Even the acceptance in Greek and Roman society is largely overstated.
female homosexuality seems to have always been somewhat more acceptable socially, for clear darwinean and socio-sexual reasons.
I don't think men lived openly with male partners in Greek society. Thinking back to Sappho, I almost am tempted to say that ancient homosexuality was more based on sexual things rather than lifestyle and family as it is trying to be accepted today.
I could very well be wrong though, I am totally no expert on this.
I think that was the case, from what I know at least a lot of people had gay lovers for sex and woman for children, love and all the crap that comes with the household...
Of course there are some people in that time that did love their gay lovers, but I do believe they were in a minority..
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