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Your abusers just want your respect?
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?
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Aug 30th, 2007 03:58 PM
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Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?
Exactly like that.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
Is this like asking if little boys are mean to little girls on the playground, because they secretly like them?
It doesn't have to be a socially awkward crush in which a person is ashamed that they like/infatuated with a social no-no.
It could be in any situation, parental, teacher, coworker, classmate, friend, spouse, boy or girl friend, etc.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:07 PM
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Re: Your abusers just want your respect?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?
I never get into relationships that are abusive.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:08 PM
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Re: Re: Your abusers just want your respect?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never get into relationships that are abusive.
If it's parental, how is that the child's fault. If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:11 PM
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If it's parental, how is that the child's fault. If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault.
If it's a parent? That parent does not deserve respect.
If my boss was being abusive, I would talk to his/her boss and if that didn't work, I would find a new job.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:16 PM
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If it's parental, how is that the child's fault? If it's a boss, how is that the coworker's fault?
Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.
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Aug 30th, 2007 04:21 PM
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Re: Your abusers just want your respect?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Have you ever been in any kind of relationship in which the same person who is abusive is the same one desiring your respect or affirmation?
You ask alot of weird and random questions. I don't know, I generally don't give a damn what abusers want.
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Aug 30th, 2007 08:04 PM
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Aug 30th, 2007 08:06 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.
if a person is liked so much that they are hated, what is that called, jealousy or envy? i don't think our entertainers overcome that issue.
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Aug 30th, 2007 08:28 PM
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What's the difference between jealousy and envy?
what issue?
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:07 PM
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There is no difference, jealousy and envy are one and the same.
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:12 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
if a person is liked so much that they are hated, ...
What? Can you give me an example?
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:22 PM
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What? Can you give me an example?
Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment....I've heard people say this before, loving to the point of hate, and I tried to think of how that could happen, and the only two emotions that motivate it is jealousy or envy, but you probably do you have a better way of describing it.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
Fault is irrelevent. The more interesting subject is how the person being abused (or liked so much, they're hated) can use this to their own advantage.
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment....I've heard people say this before, loving to the point of hate, and I tried to think of how that could happen, and the only two emotions that motivate it is jealousy or envy, but you probably do you have a better way of describing it.
Then, in that case, I don't think they know what love or hate is.
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:30 PM
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Well, I was expounding on D.K's comment
It wasn't my comment. It was the basic point of your thread.
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:32 PM
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Maybe they love her, and they suffer because of it, so they in turn also hate the person?
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
What's the difference between jealousy and envy?
what issue?
i think envy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have or IMAGINE more, meaning they will get upset or envious about what you own or think.
i think jealousy is an emotion that is motivated when someone doesn't want you to have whatever it is you own, could be the image/mind or things, they will get jealous over your own THOUGHTS or deeds or possessions.
envy = someone upset that you have or APPEAR to have MORE then them = weight
jealousy = someone not wanting you to have what you own at all = try to create "without"/desolation/destitute
sorry this is so old, here's the old paradox:
remember the Greek paradox about envy and jealousy. both were able to bless each other. they are both people, but one is jealousy and the other is envy. and a genie walks across their path and tells them they can have a wish after crossing into a new world, but the first one in will end up blessing the one behind with double portions. so, they both argue but decide that envy goes in first. envy realizes that jealousy will own twice the amount and decides to pull out one eye. jealousy thinks he's getting double portions, but ends up blind, b/c jealousy was left with double of envy. jealousy blinded by envy.
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Aug 30th, 2007 09:49 PM
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I have never been in an abusive relationship. People that do that should be taken out and dealt with.
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