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Another reason why I wish for NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST, in 1 minute


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Reminds me of an episode of Better Off Ted where the company's software update causes the whole system to ignore black people,

Also, Nokia and HP clearly have idiots for product testers.


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thats priceless


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I got one of these coolpix cameras for X-mas. It is supposed to find faces, but it finds everything else except faces. Other then that, it's a great camera.


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Can it find your wang?


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Saw that about a month ago on youtube



I wonder whether they knew that the feature is lacking or if they just plain didn't test for that.


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Can it find your wang?


I'll have to give it a try and report back. laughing out loud


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Can it find your wang?


"Wang" is a Chinese name...So probably not, no.


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I wonder whether they knew that the feature is lacking or if they just plain didn't test for that.



It's the latter.


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It's the latter.


You sure? It seems such an obvious thing to test for. I mean, if I engineered that and started testing after like two or three real, caucasian people I'd be like "Neat, I wonder if it works on them others, too". And then I'd pay a black person to stand in front of that, cause I don't have any black friends or co-workers.


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You sure? It seems such an obvious thing to test for. I mean, if I engineered that and started testing after like two or three real, caucasian people I'd be like "Neat, I wonder if it works on them others, too". And then I'd pay a black person to stand in front of that, cause I don't have any black friends or co-workers.


You wouldn't pay a black person.


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You wouldn't pay a black person.


Look, man, we tried to fight the good fight, you stopped us. Now there's ****ing laws in place.


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Look, man, we tried to fight the good fight, you stopped us. Now there's ****ing laws in place.


So now you build cars that are sturdy for us to hit black people's cheap, unsafe cars with and kill them.

I like it.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
You sure? It seems such an obvious thing to test for. I mean, if I engineered that and started testing after like two or three real, caucasian people I'd be like "Neat, I wonder if it works on them others, too". And then I'd pay a black person to stand in front of that, cause I don't have any black friends or co-workers.


I'm positive. The idea that it may not work on a black person would not cross most people's minds as the software is picking up on shadows on the face, not the skin tone. There'd be no logical reason to check to see if it works on dark-skinned people, based on the nature of the program....as black people would have shadows, as well. The problem is due to the lack of contrast between the shadows and the surrounding skin, which is what the HP engineers overlooked.

I assume that the program algorithm just looks for a contrast differential based on specific shapes (common to the face). So, it will look for the cresecent shaped shadow under the eyebrow, and run a contrast comparison against the surrounding skin (say, it looks for a 80+ point difference (on a 255 point scale)).

It's also possible that the testing lab for this software had different lighting than they could account for, so they really did test it with darker skinned people. In that factory video, the camera is oddly adjusting light sensitivity, making the black dude look really dark. That could be part of the problem: maybe the algorithm works just fine...they just need to adjust the light sensitivity and how it adjusts?


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I thought this was old news. Current face recognition software is 30% successful. It's so shitty that a security test mistook Winona Ryder for Osama Bin Laden.


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I thought this was old news. Current face recognition software is 30% successful. It's so shitty that a security test mistook Winona Ryder for Osama Bin Laden.


Never seen the two of them in the same room at the same time have you?


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thats priceless
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the camera is racist!! i wonder if it did that with other races like hispanic or middle eastern?


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People are so stupid.

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I'd sue em' if I was asian.... smile

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