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Question Is desensitizing really that bad?

It seems kind of like a form of mental evolution to me. I mean you're much more likely to be successful in a challenging situation if you have experience, rather than just instincts. So, how do people back up all of the criticisms against desensitization?


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It depends on what you're being desensitized to... I would think that much should be obvious.


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It depends on what you're being desensitized to... I would think that much should be obvious.
What would be a bad thing to be desensitized to?


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Originally posted by Amazing Vrayo!!
What would be a bad thing to be desensitized to?


The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs?

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The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs?

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Nevermind, I thought that the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs were somehow connected to the tsunami and got confused.


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I could list and show more things not to get desensitized to if you want...I could also tell you some cracking stories from my forensic studies days.


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The maniacs were breaking the law, plain and simple. The picture is very sad, but nothing can really be done by grieving about it. It was a natural disaster, and you can't stop those. You can only attempt to. I personally don't see any benefits to grieving.


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Re: Is desensitizing really that bad?

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Originally posted by Amazing Vrayo!!
So, how do people back up all of the criticisms against desensitization?


Take internet-porn as an example, with what's available at just a few strokes(lol) of the keyboard, I now have a hard time nutting unless there's multiple penetration and a midget is somehow involved. Desensitization, not always good.


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Originally posted by Amazing Vrayo!!
The maniacs were breaking the law, plain and simple. The picture is very sad, but nothing can really be done by grieving about it. It was a natural disaster, and you can't stop those. You can only attempt to. I personally don't see any benefits to grieving.


Grieving is nothing to do with being desensitized though. Desensitization is simply no longer being shocked by things that would shock the average person.

In this case i'm about as far outside the bell curve as can possibly be...I've seen the Dunblane crime scene photographs...The Soham murders crime scene pictures...Piper Alpha and Lockerbie victims...I've seen dead people riddled with maggots...Children who've accidentally hanged themselves through the bars of their bunk beds. Road traffic accident victims including a motor cycle accident where the only thing holding the person together was their leathers...and they were still alive at that point. I've seen someone who had suffocated themselves with a plastic shopping bag and who's body had been sitting there so long when we moved it the head was so rotten inside the bag that it fell off (very amusing)

Some generally pretty horrid shit that would shock most people...I'm now at the point where pretty much nothing bothers me at all.


As for stuff online...I've pictures of victims from the Madrid train bombings...Every beheading video going...People getting pulled apart between 2 cars...People getting shot in the face and having their teeth blown out...Someone being run over by a tank...You name it...I've looked for it and in most cases found it.


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Take internet-porn as an example, with what's available at just a few strokes(lol) of the keyboard, I now have a hard time nutting unless there's multiple penetration and a midget is somehow involved. Desensitization, not always good.
I see what you're saying, but I think women prefer a man who can hold it in for longer, so that they orgasm before the man. That's a talent my friend. Plus, what if you were being held in a hostage situation by some hot femme fatale psychopath, who would shoot you to death if you came, but then blew you, and it just didn't happen. Your brains would stay inside your head and you would gain the respect of a hot serial killer. Now, one problem would be reproduction. I guess you would either have to convince your mate to accept it, and a midget and a friend to come over, or you could adopt a baby from a poor country that has no internets. A country where people's butter guns have hair triggers.


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The problem with desensitization is that you can start to forget just how horrible something is and thus allow it to continue. If murder doesn't phase me then my emotional motivation to do something about it is reduced. When you extend this to an entire population the problem becomes apparent.

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Plus, what if you were being held in a hostage situation by some hot femme fatale psychopath, who would shoot you to death if you came, but then blew you, and it just didn't happen. Your brains would stay inside your head and you would gain the respect of a hot serial killer.


Because that's a realistic scenario.


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Desensitizing to things like war would be bad wouldn't they?


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Desensitizing to things like war would be bad wouldn't they?


Not if you were in one...I would think that a benefit from not being bothered by the horrors of war is that you wouldn't suffer from PTSD.

Although i'm sure one of our resident psychology experts will no doubt inform me of some underlying unconscious mind thingymajigproblemydooda.


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The problem with desensitization is that you can start to forget just how horrible something is and thus allow it to continue. If murder doesn't phase me then my emotional motivation to do something about it is reduced. When you extend this to an entire population the problem becomes apparent.



Because that's a realistic scenario.
I, personally can learn from something without being emotionally affected by it, and I believe that other people can too. Also, I have no idea how I came up with the scenario above. It must be time for me to put "a few strokes" on my keyboard. Also, I would teach my children that murder is wrong and make sure that they teach their children the same, and teach it from generation to generation. I would expect others to have the common sense to do the same too.


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I, personally can learn from something without being emotionally affected by it, and I believe that other people can too. Also, I have no idea how I came up with the scenario above. It must be time for me to put "a few strokes" on my keyboard. Also, I would teach my children that murder is wrong and make sure that they teach their children the same, and teach it from generation to generation. I would expect others to have the common sense to do the same too.


You seriously don't see a problem with a world where people don't care about murder? Seriously?

Or let's try an experiment: explain to me why beating someone to death is bad without appealing to emotion.


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You seriously don't see a problem with a world where people don't care about murder? Seriously?

Or let's try an experiment: explain to me why beating someone to death is bad without appealing to emotion.
It's illegal.


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It's illegal.


Why should it be illegal then? Again without appealing to emotion.


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Why should it be illegal then? Again without appealing to emotion.
Listen, the generations before us have made it illegal because of THEIR negative emotional responses to it. I'll give you that. But once something is already established as illegal, and people are put in jail, or killed for committing it, then there is absolutely no point in grieving over it. As long as respect for authority. If some new brutal action that causes emotional distress appears, then this generation will call it illegal, and pass it down to new generations. People may no longer be sensitive to it, but I still think that they will uphold the laws.


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You seriously don't see a problem with a world where people don't care about murder? Seriously?


Not if it eliminates the eye-for-an-eye mentality.

Every murder doesn't require an emotional backlash from all and sundry...The people close to the victim?...Yes....Everyone else?...No.

Evidence based convictions and statutory sentences would be far more effective than emotional based witness testimony and jury based sentencing.


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Not if it eliminates the eye-for-an-eye mentality.

Every murder doesn't require an emotional backlash from all and sundry...The people close to the victim?...Yes....Everyone else?...No.

Evidence based convictions and statutory sentences would be far more effective than emotional based witness testimony and jury based sentencing.
Agreed.


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