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Is Malcolm X Racist?

Hiya. I've always sort of wondered about this; X was around in a time of severe racism towards blacks (ie jim crow), but his views towards the whites from what I've learned are quite racist themselves.
I honestly don't know enough about him to know if he generalised all whites as being the 'white devil'.

I know he fought against the whole inequality thing but was his ultimate goal inequality ie no whites?


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Re: Is Malcolm X Racist?

When he was associated with the Nation of Islam, he preached hatred/racism. After he left, he supposedly calmed down some.


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As I recall from history class he was proudly racist early on but after going on the Hajj and getting exposure to cultures all around the world he started to mellow. Of course he died like a year later so there wasn't much time for that to have an effect.


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I wonder why so many people are pointed out as Racist all the time?it gets pretty boring after hearing it all over and over again.


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I wonder why so many people are pointed out as Racist all the time?it gets pretty boring after hearing it all over and over again.
It may be cause a lot of people are racist.


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Malcolm the 10th was a good dude.


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Malcolm the 10th was a good dude.


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it was on a show, maybe scrubs.


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I don't think he was at al
Only white people can be racists and that is a fact thanks to the various colonial
European empires that murdered millions of people of America, Canada, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, India etc


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If you're trying to rile [white]people for fun, FoTN did this "racism invented by Whites!" angle long ago.

If you actually think that, you're a tool and non-European empires murdered people just the same, so read a book or two.


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It's historical fact that cannot be ignored

But what happened in the past cannot be blamed on the modern day white race
And that's all I'm saying on that


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I don't think he was at al
Only white people can be racists and that is a fact thanks to the various colonial
European empires that murdered millions of people of America, Canada, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, India etc


Lol, anyone can be racist.


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If we go by "X" the movie, which afaik was fairly accurate, his trip to Mecca, where he worshiped with people of all races, was hugely transformative in his opinion of whites and racial integration.

Also, there is a line where a white girl asks him what she, as a non-racist white person can do to help his cause, to which X says "nothing", sort of indicates that he was only preaching against white establishment and not individual white people.

The problem is, X was alive in a time where all the establishment was essentially "white". To fight the battle he was fighting, some aknowledgement of this would have been necessary, and in a way, that does make him "anti-white", but only in so far as whites controlled the systems that legitimately work to oppress black people. We could probably call this "racism" in a philosophical sense, but I think there is very little evidence that this extended to X's opinion of white people in general.

There are good interviews of him on youtube, where he seems to have little problem discussing with white people, though his confrontational nature does come out.


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Originally posted by majid86
It's historical fact that cannot be ignored


/facepalm

you know, Japanese society is extremely xenophobic

Arabs have traditionally been racist toward blacks

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Lol, anyone can be racist.


Not anyone just those who preach hatred toward non whites because they don't have blond hair, blue eyes, light skin etc

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It's historical fact that cannot be ignored

But what happened in the past cannot be blamed on the modern day white race
And that's all I'm saying on that

The concept of race as a divisor dates back at least to Ancient Egypt, maybe even earlier.

Yasuke, the first black man to ever live in Japan was executed after being captured by the enemies of his Lord, Oda Nobunaga on the grounds that they believed him to be an animal. We're talking about Japan prior to any meaningful contact with white cultures. IE: white people have no monopoly on racism.

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Not anyone just those who preach hatred toward non whites because they don't have blond hair, blue eyes, light skin etc

What you seem to be doing here is simplifying racism to apply only to White Supremacy, specifically the Nordic variety.


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Does using racial slurs in your defense make you a racist?

This has happened to me many times whenever a white person calls me a paki


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Does using racial slurs in your defense make you a racist?

This has happened to me many times whenever a white person calls me a paki

A little bit, yeah.


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Not anyone just those who preach hatred toward non whites because they don't have blond hair, blue eyes, light skin etc


sorry man, that is just factually incorrect


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I don't think so and I'll say whatever I want to hurt that person the most.
How can a person be mad and pc at the same time?

Thank god I live in a multicultural nation like the UK because I feel safer living in an Asian area than any other place in London


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