Actually he's a spineless neocon tool for continuing torture programs and wars, bailing out financial institutions, not declaring the chamber of commerce a terrorist organization, and gutting LIHEAP and community block grants in order to pay for tax cuts and refunds to millionaires and billionaires who don't pay their fair share or any taxes at all.
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Re: Re: Obama attempts to court Reaganistas in a pathetic display of weakness.
he is appealing to people who just spent millions of dollars electing democrats out of office. The only way he could make them happy is by being more republican than are the republicans themselves, and they will still spend the millions on getting him elected out.
You think the chamber of commerce or Regan era republicans will back a democrat? a black democrat (socialist nazi communist muslim terrorist anti-christ)?
Re: Re: Re: Obama attempts to court Reaganistas in a pathetic display of weakness.
I have a better solution. When most if not all of your political opponents control the system financially and are breaking the law, use your your ****ing executive power to ENFORCE the existing law and take that money and power away from them. You've got major lobbying groups and their heads, several US Congressmen, countless businessmen and bankers publicy comitting crimes that are serious, impeachable, and often capital. Obama could destroy the entire corrupt system, end the debt, and begin restoring employment within three months if he really wanted to.
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Re: Re: Re: Obama attempts to court Reaganistas in a pathetic display of weakness.
Not, not them. It is to appease mid-right leaning voters.
US Presidents are pretty much guaranteed a large number of votes for them and a large number of votes against them, no matter what, just depends if they have an "R" or "D" next to their name.
The Chamber of Commerce shouldn't matter. Considering their activities and that we're in this weird semi-state of war, Obama could have all their members in Guantanamo Bay and Tom Donahue in front of a firing squad in three days. Again, IF HE WANTED TO.
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That would be political suicide, though. I don't know why anyone would do that. Possibly even literal suicide.
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Solutions: term limits, pull out of the U.N., lift all moratoriums on drilling, abolish the EPA's bias against self perpetuating energy, disband the FCC, abolish the war on drugs, dissolve the CIA or let them do their damn job, ****in fair tax!, & finally try all George Soros organizations under RICO statutes. Thank u & goodnight. Oh, & build some ****in schools that aren't founded in government dependancy
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They facilitate bribery and treason. They're terrorists. Take them out.
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so in other words privatize everything, abolish consumer protection, raise taxes by over 30% on everyone except rich people, and define lobbying against fascism as organized crime? What exactly is "self-perpetuating energy?
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One only has to look at the cover of the latest issue of Time Magazine to see that President Obama (why is it so difficult for detractors and supporters alike to remember to shoehorn that title into any reference to him?) is practically a shoe-in for a second term. My support for him during the election and over the last two years has been contingent on his actions and behavior during a second term. What does it say more about, the Reaganistas or the Obamanites? (Ask yourself about Reagan then more than you do Obama now, and you'll see that my past statements about the Democrat party merrit consideration - along with people who poopoo the President sinply because he has a D in front of his name.) I have some very serious issues with Reagan-era policies and propoganda, but they come appalingly close to President Obama's. My hope for this President is that this is where the atheist, socialist, gay-marriage supporter will start to shift to politics of the party, rather than the other way around. Then again, the cover of Time Magazine doesn't make much difference to actual supporters the same way it does with Reaganistas. Must be that liberal media, pretending it doesn't have a conservative brother who gets just as much support and attention from their parents.
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Obama is a Corporatist Lemon Socialist which is the Republicans' favorite kind of socialist. He redistributes money to the wealthy and failing banks and corporations. I really hope someone better runs a primary against him or a third party can get enough to send his ass out of the white house. Bottom line is the whole system needs to be rebuilt. We need a Social Democratic Liberal Party, a Democratic conservative party, and a prison big enough to house the republican party, preferably located outside of Nome, Alaska.
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No one is going to run a democrat primary against him. The republicans aren't going anywhere. He's shifting to the middle in order to get a second term, like every liberal has to in a nation of 55% self-identifying conservatives.
but the "centre" he is moving toward is not the one that the American people hold. It is this constantly rightward shifting goal Obama seems to have, in an attempt to look centrist. However, such action only makes Reps pull even further right. The "centre" is shifting to a place where the majority of neither party sits. ie: nearly a trillion dollars in tax cuts, half of which went to the top 2%, in late 2010. This only made the Reps demand further tax cuts (which show up in his new budget, which also slashes low and middle class programs [like heating for poor people, in winter]), and after receiving these, their rhetoric is still that Obama hasn't done enough.
The majority of the American public has rallied since the recession that such Big-Business/Big-Government is not what they want, yet the "centre" position in Washington is tax-cuts for the rich.
EDIT: further still, Reps and Dems are now talking about slashing Social Security, a program that is expected to remain at a surpluss for years to come. In every type of poll ever, Social security has been the one thing Americans have said "do not cut", yet here are both Dems and Reps saying, "lets cut social security, as opposed to raising corporate tax". This "media centre" has nothing to do with what voters want, and any appeal to it from Obama is really only weakening his position.
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That 55% isn't swayed by reality, only by what they are told is conservative and Republican. The Republican agenda is to continue to move more and more to the right as a means of maintaining control. It's the exact conversation I had with Zeal before about Obama being about as actually liberal Bob Dole in the 90s. As long as the Republicans keep moving the center of the field further and further into the end zone, the more extreme the Democrat response to maintain some sort of opposition is going to be. he doesn't need all 55%, just a few points from it to win. At this point, he has no opposition, and likely little in that department from the Republicans.
There is always going to be a huge number of republicans that simply hate the President, and for all those reasons we've all discussed before. Nothing he does is going to change that. But, it is not a mystery what he is doing, nor is it just my opinion.
I'm also not certain that Social Security is on such stable footing, or has been in recent history.
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