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History shows us that where?
Cause the US has a gigantic government, with a lot of market influencing and corporations are gigantic and ridiculously influential (due to being able to buy that government)
But the problem with Mr. Paul's position is that to remedy that corporate influence in the government, making it "smaller", is to reduce that government's ability to police and regulate those businesses that become large enough to buy said government.
It's also a false position that government healthcare is somehow going to be responsible for impersonalizing the relationship between a doctor and their patient. Those same corporations that Mr. Paul would like to see run free, unchecked, are more responsible for that than government healthcare. So, in this instance, Mr. Paul is right in some respects, given that the current plan for government healthcare is just one big sloppy blowjob for the insurance racket and the pharmaceutical dealers.
Mr. Paul seems to honestly and passionately believe that it is unfair to treat business differently based only on the size and success of that business. The problem with his position is that in order to ensure that successful business is not punished for being successful, he ignores the reality that most businesses do not become successful and that those that are must be held to a higher standard given the amount of national wealth and resources they control. He also ignores the hypocrisy of treating the government as the natural enemy of successful business while refusing to understand that the government of the US is wholly own and subsidized by those businesses. They're really the same enemy in his rhetoric. he seems to really buy into the Milton Friedman school of trickle down economics, which has been what has ultimately proven to be the false supposition in all of this free market v socialized healthcare debate. In fact, it's proven to be the false supposition in practically every conservative republican position.
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"Hi, I'm Ron Paul. We need to get the government out of health care so they don't prevent good honest doctors from inventing organizations and accreditations to award themselves like my son Rand did. I named him after my favorite author who taught me that the owners and capitalists have all the real value and that the workers are just useless parasites. It's an insult to morality to give any of these moochers health care. They can buy their own. It's easier and cheaper to buy if you get rid of regulation. We need only one regulation on business-buyer beware. We're America! We don't need no sissy universal health care or truth in packaging laws, or anti-trust laws, or RICO. If it involves a financial transaction, it's legal. Also, using public roads makes you a communist.
Also, while we're being honest, let's just throw out the economic backup plan that's obvious to me based on my associations. If the economy gets worse, let's just seize money from the Jews but harvest their organs and sell them to the Chinese before we gas em. Hell, half the party loves the idea.
Happy Easter!"
-Ron Paul, 2010
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Pretty much the beginning and end of Mr. Paul's economic, social and political perspective. Cheers to you.
I don't understand how so many people can't relate the idea of a vote to the concept of buying a retail product as the same ****ing thing. We elect leaders the same way we give Exxon or Nabisco political clout in a free market above all else mindset.
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It becomes easier to understand when you think of conservatism and objectivism as inverse-marxism.
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Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
"Government of the people, by the people, for the people"=complete government control? No all this means is that the government is there to serve the people, searve as in protect the freedoms the founding fathers had in mind, and capitalism is what they had in mind. In what way does complete control of healthcare by ANY one organization make sense? they will get greedy, charging more for their services (aka, tax the hell out of us), taking short cuts, less and less people will qualify for medical services, and they can get away with all that crap because they wont have any competition. Everyone will also be forced to have healthcare, the first time the government has ever attempted to force us to buy something. and then there is the fact that anything funded by the government (besides the military, don't ask me why this is) is crap, dmv, post office, welfare, social security, etc. They don't care how they spend the money, it isn't theirs, so why would they?
Then there is the less compassionate reason, it would bankrupt an already bankrupt country. After they bleed their citizens dry, they will need to pay for all this crap somehow, so...I don't know, we would have to do something...we all move to Canada I guess.
Given, that is a pretty extreme scenario, but really...it isn't that far off from what Obama wants to do.
Now, I don't know exactly if you were arguing for obama care, but I needed to rant a bit.
Bullshit. It might mean to you what you want it to imply, but that was not my intention. In fact, every time you call it Obamacare, you not only illustrate your own intentional ignorance of the reality, but ignore that what you call Obamacare is only a few degrees off of what would have ended up being called Dolecare in 1997.
'Of, by and for' represents more of what is America than what too many have been duped into calling socialism, as though it were at all a bad and unrealistic thing, than does anything Reagan or Obama have done. Socialized medicare is more American and far more in line with FDR's 2nd bill of human rights than anything accomplished by any President or political party in the last 30 years.
There is also a difference between what the President campaigned on and attempted, along with Hillary in the '90s, than is realistically possible in the corporate bully is king atmosphere that currently runs America.
Doesn't it? However, that doesn't preclude actual liberalism. A fact ignored by the politically charged neo-con, christians who identify more with politics than religion than they realize.
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The organization that epitomizes "good" health care in America. Do you goes know anything about the Kaiser group's health care and health care group? "Awesome" is the only way I could describe it.
For you Europeans with decent health care systems...it would just be "normal."
Holy shit, that's a heavy sentence to digest (intellectually).
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