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theICONiac
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Would you like a Cingulate brain herniation with your fries??

Interesting story here about a McDonalds employee who snaps while defending himself from a couple of irate customers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8y2DMdNpAY

As anyone knows who has worked in customer service, customers can be dicks. I spent a couple of years in retail management, and the abuse that you are required to take made me feel like our hapless burger-jockey in the video a number of times.

The women physically attacked first. Was the cashier justified in any shape or form for what he did?

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/reads opening post

/opens link

/reads "two black women" in title

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/that tells me all I need to know


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Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
/reads opening post

/opens link

/reads "two black women" in title

/closes link

/that tells me all I need to know


Better than reading 'Two women savagely beaten by black McDonalds employee with long criminal history' no? eek!

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I work with Customers at my job and some days are better then some other days. But its life.


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If he'd broken her jaw, fine, they were assholes and they attacked him but he beat one of them with a pipe while she was lying on the ground. That's impossible to justify.


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Yea people are crazy these days.


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herniation of the cingulate would be pretty difficult....


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If he'd broken her jaw, fine, they were assholes and they attacked him but he beat one of them with a pipe while she was lying on the ground. That's impossible to justify.


I agree with the above statement.

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The news report is misleading, he didn't attack them so much as fight back.

That being said, I agree with Sym, there's no way you can justify that level of violence over something like this.


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If he'd broken her jaw, fine, they were assholes and they attacked him but he beat one of them with a pipe while she was lying on the ground. That's impossible to justify.

No, it's not. It's called "making an example."

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No, it's not. It's called "making an example."


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No, it's not. It's called "making an example."

Lol. Only example made here is an example of how American prisons are failures at their expressed purpose of rehabilitation.


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Good on him...


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Meh...I sit on the fence with this one.

One point to consider is the women's actions. Slapping the cashier is one thing; but diving over the counter to further attack him? Perhaps the cashier was scared they were armed, and could do real harm?

The women were certainly over-the-top aggressive, as was the cashiers actions.

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Women presented threat to employee's safety, threat neutralized.


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Originally posted by theICONiac
Meh...I sit on the fence with this one.

One point to consider is the women's actions. Slapping the cashier is one thing; but diving over the counter to further attack him? Perhaps the cashier was scared they were armed, and could do real harm?

The women were certainly over-the-top aggressive, as was the cashiers actions.

You might have something of a point (a small and shaky one) but for the fact that the guy kept beating them after they were down and clearly no more of a threat to him.

Any attempt to paint this as self-defense on the part of the employee is fallacious. Conversely any attempt to paint the women as victims of unprovoked violence is similarly fallacious.


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You might have something of a point (a small and shaky one) but for the fact that the guy kept beating them after they were down and clearly no more of a threat to him.

Any attempt to paint this as self-defense on the part of the employee is fallacious. Conversely any attempt to paint the women as victims of unprovoked violence is similarly fallacious.


But you know what? I can't help but feel sorry for this guy. This is something not so 'black and white' (no pun intended there Blaxican smile )

Only going but what I know (and there could be lots to sway my opinion the other way) but it appears he:

- is a former con who paid his debt to society
- was working in a dead F job trying to support himself
- was attacked by 2 pieces of trash and as a result snapped, severly hurting one of them

He is now probably (based on his prior record) going to go back to prison...maybe for a considerable time. Maybe he really was trying to straighten his life out...and those 2 cows have taken it away from him.

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Lol. Only example made here is an example of how blacks are failures at being a part of civilized society.

Fixed that for you.


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And the long awaited update!

The charges against the McDonalds employee were all dismissed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tack-women.html

Was justice served??

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I feel if they had gone for lighter charges, rather than assault with a weapon, they might have had a better case. It is clearly self defense, and I'd generally give some leeway to the person defending themselves in the head of the moment. Does something like "excessive defense" exist on the books as a softer form of assault? or is this one of those cases where it is either all or nothing?


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