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Obama smacks around PC Colleges.

****ing A right Mr. President.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ollege-students

Tell them how it is.

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He ain't wrong. You need to debate to win the argument. Freezing out guest speakers from colleges and universities because their opinions aren't popular is idiotic.

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They will scream, yell, insult you, run away or call you a racist bigot...but they will never debate.

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So does this mean he won't be accepting all those BIG CHECKS to speak at these colleges after he leaves office?

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I'm almost surprised nobody called him an Uncle Tom or something like that.

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I'm almost surprised nobody called him an Uncle Tom or something like that.

Are you joking and be investigated by the IRS?

please laughing out loud

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He ain't wrong. You need to debate to win the argument. Freezing out guest speakers from colleges and universities because their opinions aren't popular is idiotic.

I disagree, certain opinions do not deserve a platform, and universities do not have to provide it.

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He ain't wrong. You need to debate to win the argument. Freezing out guest speakers from colleges and universities because their opinions aren't popular is idiotic.

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I disagree, certain opinions do not deserve a platform, and universities do not have to provide it.

To add to this, I don't really see the value in entertaining unscientific arguments in Universities simply on the virtue of being "fair."

Seriously debating evolution and creationism in universities would give the illusion that the ideas have equal value and weight, when creationism has no scientific virtue whatsoever.

I'm not sure if that's what Obama meant though. I think Obama is saying that universities should invite conservative political thinkers and speakers even if these universities have a liberal bent.

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I disagree, certain opinions do not deserve a platform, and universities do not have to provide it.

Disgusting.

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Disgusting.

He's right, not every position is worthy of consideration. Holocaust Denial, for instance.

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He's right, not every position is worthy of consideration. Holocaust Denial, for instance.

Too close to facism to me. I'm genuinely disgusted by the idea. Who's to say which opinion or study is unworthy? Its a slippery slope.

I was taught if you disagree, fine. Make your case and I'll make mine, whoever starts yelling, insulting or speaking nonsense loses.

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Too close to facism to me. I'm genuinely disgusted by the idea. Who's to say which opinion or study is unworthy? Its a slippery slope.

I was taught if you disagree, fine. Make your case and I'll make mine, whoever starts yelling, insulting or speaking nonsense loses.

It's not a slippery slope if you understand why certain positions are worthless. Certain positions shouldn't even be legitimized by arguing them.

Holocaust denial for instance is worthless because only raging racists deny the mountain of evidence that it happened. Creationism is worthless because it has no more evidence to support it than does the existence of Middle Earth.

The existence of an invisible blue man who lives in your house only when you're not in your house shouldn't be debated either because it's logically unsound and silly.

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It's not a slippery slope if you understand why certain positions are worthless. Certain positions shouldn't even be legitimized by arguing them.

Holocaust denial for instance is worthless because only raging racists deny the mountain of evidence that it happened. Creationism is worthless because it has no more evidence to support it than does the existence of Middle Earth.

The existence of an invisible blue man who lives in your house only when you're not in your house shouldn't be debated either because it's logically unsound and silly.

Then destroying them in a debate should be easy....

Who makes the call that such and such is not worth hearing? A group of hiveminded liberals?

Conservatives want to control your body, libs want to control your mind. Its a disturbing sickness.

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Then destroying them in a debate should be easy....

Who makes the call that such and such is not worth hearing? A group of hiveminded liberals?

Conservatives want to control your body, libs want to control your mind. Its a disturbing sickness.

Yes, it should be, but simply by putting it on a stage alongside a legitimate idea you might create the illusion that the ideas have equal weight.

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I like Obama's stance on this.

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Sep 16th, 2015 02:31 PM

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He's right that colleges shouldn't discriminate based on political ideology who they invite to speak.

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He's right that colleges shouldn't discriminate based on political ideology who they invite to speak.

But there is a point where most people draw the line. I think it's perfectly fair to say that some people under the mantle of the Republicans have crossed that line.

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But there is a point where most people draw the line. I think it's perfectly fair to say that some people under the mantle of the Republicans have crossed that line.

look into this before you look foolish friend.

Condelleza Rice was protested against as a for commencement for a school that the year before gave that honor to Snooki...

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But there is a point where most people draw the line. I think it's perfectly fair to say that some people under the mantle of the Republicans have crossed that line.

Unlike those colleges that actually invite 3rd World Dictators to speak at their institutions. Those are far more worthy then a republican or far worse....conservative.

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