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The $500,000,000 Failed Syria Strategy


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500 mill or 50 mill?


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"The Obama administration announced the training program last year, as a way to create a ground force to take on ISIS without having to deploy US forces.

The Pentagon was granted $500 million for the program in 2015, and has requested $600 million for 2016. The administration's goal is to train 15,000 rebels in three years."


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Of coarse the liberals here are running scared of this kind of stuff.


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Shit, I wish that someone would forget that they gave me 500 mill. If the government is giving out that kind of loot, maybe I could get a loan for 250,000 and open a Laundromat.


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Of coarse this is seen as a success by Obama supporters because 4 or 5 are left.

This is the type of Commander in Chief we have and people worry about Trumplaughing out loud

All the military commanders just had to testify before the house sub committee on the catastrophic failure and how next year Obama plans to drop another 600 million

Thats $1.1 Billion on a failed project!!

How about spending that money on 30 more VA hospitals.


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Yeah this was a disaster. The reason is that we want to train and equip "moderate" rebels, but our definition of moderate is so stringent that practically no one fighting in Syria qualifies, and those that do aren't generally the best fighters.


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Yea and he knows its a disaster and what is the excuse to drop another $600,000,000??


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Yeah this was a disaster. The reason is that we want to train and equip "moderate" rebels, but our definition of moderate is so stringent that practically no one fighting in Syria qualifies, and those that do aren't generally the best fighters.



So what are they going to do, put wheelchair warriors out on the front lines? Just kidding. But yeah, it's crazy. So much could have been done with those funds in terms of improving our state of affairs. All Presidents make mistakes, but the last few that Obama has made seem like he's trying to sabotage the US. We're talking about a crap load of money that seems to have all but slipped through the cracks.


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So what are they going to do, put wheelchair warriors out on the front lines? Just kidding. But yeah, it crazy. So much could have been done with those funds in terms of improving our state of affairs. All Presidents make mistakes, but the last few that Obama has made seem like he's trying to sabotage the US. We're talking about a crap load of money that seems to have all but slipped through the cracks.


Its deliberate sabotage by design.


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Its deliberate sabotage by design.

Please explain why Obama would sabotage his own plan.


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Please explain why Obama would sabotage his own plan.


Why don't you ask stoic their mr. deflector since he was responding to you and posted about the sabotage.


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Its deliberate sabotage by design.


Yo, we should call G.I Joe on his ass.


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Why don't I address the question to both of you since you both seem to think Obama sabotaged his own strategy, you can both answer me one at a time.


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Why don't I address the question to both of you since you both seem to think Obama sabotaged his own strategy, you can both answer me one at a time.


You are strawmanning, neither one of us said he was sabotaging his own strategy, how about you read what Stoic wrote again.


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Okay, so let me rephrase the question: why do you think Obama is deliberately wasting money to hurt the US?


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Okay, so let me rephrase the question: why do you think Obama is deliberately wasting money to hurt the US?


That was his campaign promise, in case you forgot.



Free medical bills, free college, free debt reduction, blah blah blah.


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Why don't I address the question to both of you since you both seem to think Obama sabotaged his own strategy, you can both answer me one at a time.


I said that it seems like he has sabotaged the US, but I have a suspicious mind. The Iran deal seems suspect to me as well, but even to me those thoughts feel more like a conspiracy theory than actual fact.


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Like every other intervention policy in the last 14 years in the middle east it's an abject failure. Not surprising really. The US and other western allies have no clue who to support or how to go about intervening successfully in Syria and Iraq and yet get all pissy when Russia actually pick a side and start to act or when Iran (who have been the most effective at tackling ISIS on the basis of the little resources they've employed so far) do the same.

Instead the US do a deal with Turkey to use their airbases to bomb ISIS while Turkey bomb people fighting against ISIS (the Kurds) from the same airbases.


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Like every other intervention policy in the last 14 years in the middle east it's an abject failure. Not surprising really. The US and other western allies have no clue who to support or how to go about intervening successfully in Syria and Iraq and yet get all pissy when Russia actually pick a side and start to act or when Iran (who have been the most effective at tackling ISIS on the basis of the little resources they've employed so far) do the same.

Instead the US do a deal with Turkey to use their airbases to bomb ISIS while Turkey bomb people fighting against ISIS (the Kurds) from the same airbases.


Nah we won on Bush's watch, we lost and the Middle east unraveled under Obama.


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