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If Superman existed

What political affiliation would he be?

We know he stands for everything that is good about America.

Truth, Justice and the American Way.


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Something tells me he'd be pro illegal immigration. Also to be honest Superman, assuming he was active as a super hero, technically breaks the law pretty much all the time.


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i thought supes doesnt involved in government


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Something tells me he'd be pro illegal immigration. Also to be honest Superman, assuming he was active as a super hero, technically breaks the law pretty much all the time.


Does a god break laws? Or does he make them?


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i thought supes doesnt involved in government


It depends on the version you want to use.


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Something tells me he'd be pro illegal immigration. Also to be honest Superman, assuming he was active as a super hero, technically breaks the law pretty much all the time.


Why because his father sent him here as a child?

Superman is man of laws and principles. Hence the crime fighting.


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Does a god break laws? Or does he make them?


You therein see the problem with Superman and why the DC universe seems to be way more accepting of metahumans as opposed to Marvel. In reality, Superman would terrify pretty much everyone. Remember, he doesn't just stop super villains, he will stop normal crime as well. So he technically takes the law into his own hands without anyone ever asking him to do so. There is also no real way to hold him accountable for pretty much..anything he does unless he decides to allow you to hold him accountable.

Not to mention I imagine the government wouldn't be too keen with him flying around all over the place(after all a normal person can't just take a plane and fly it around a city) and the fact he could see/hear anything. Just the fact that they could never punish him unless he allowed it would bother people, just knowing he *could* do whatever he wanted, even if he never would.

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Why because his father sent him here as a child?

Superman is man of laws and principles. Hence the crime fighting.


He is in the USA illegally. His adoption papers and identity would all be false.

Superman does champion the law, but he also routinely breaks it. People tend to look the other way in the comics because of the whole saving the world thing, but the real world isn't that simple and people love to destroy heroes and nitpick. He doesn't usually break the law for personal gain, but he still breaks it all the time.

I suppose you could write special laws for him, but then that sends you down a slippery slope.


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Superman would be above politics.

In terms of his personal convictions though, I think he's a quiet progressive.


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If Superman existed today, he would be accepted. He would scare the shit out the world governments because they cannot control him and they never would.

What was that line? "You're scared of me because you don't control me. You can't, and you never will. But that doesn't make me your enemy."


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Tbh I'd be pretty scared of him too. It's different in a universe populated with magical and superpowered beings where Superman just happens to be one of the more powerful ones. Here he'd be completely unprecedented and unique.


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If Superman existed today, he would be accepted. He would scare the shit out the world governments because they cannot control him and they never would.

What was that line? "You're scared of me because you don't control me. You can't, and you never will. But that doesn't make me your enemy."


I think you're giving people a bit too much credit. Just setting aside everything else..just think about what his existence would do for things like religion. Then consider the amount of power he has and that he is technically a vigilante.

If Superman goes to stop a bank robbery, succeeds, but is shot and a bullet bounces off him and kills an innocent person, what do you think would happen? That is just one of a thousand things that could turn the world against him.


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Superman would probably apologize and use his superpowers to build a school or children's hospital named after the dead bystander. People would forgive him in time. I think his existence alone would be more damaging than something small like that.


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I think you're giving people a bit too much credit. Just setting aside everything else..just think about what his existence would do for things like religion. Then consider the amount of power he has and that he is technically a vigilante.

If Superman goes to stop a bank robbery, succeeds, but is shot and a bullet bounces off him and kills an innocent person, what do you think would happen? That is just one of a thousand things that could turn the world against him.


Jesus was a vigilante to the powers of the world. The world turned against him and they killed him.

Now with Superman, not a damn thing we could do about it. However I am talking about Superman, the same one as in the movies and comic books.

So what would we have to fear?


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It is small but it's just one thing that could add up over time. Think about it, what if it was a little kid killed. The parents would argue that the bank robbers might not of ever bothered to fire a shot if Superman hadn't tried to stop them. So his taking the law into his own hands I think would create a ripple effect. It wouldn't just be one incident.

Since as you said, his sheer existence would bother people already, then add to that any type of body count..


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It is small but it's just one thing that could add up over time. Think about it, what if it was a little kid killed. The parents would argue that the bank robbers might not of ever bothered to fire a shot if Superman hadn't tried to stop them. So his taking the law into his own hands I think would create a ripple effect. It wouldn't just be one incident.

Since as you said, his sheer existence would bother people already, then add to that any type of body count..

I think most people would probably see that it isn't Superman's fault that the bank robber was an *******.

Besides, Superman is totally fast enough to catch the bullet.


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So like Manhatten from Watchmen?


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Superman has turned evil several times over the years. It tends to go badly.

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Superman has turned evil several times over the years. It tends to go badly.


Due to CIS from comic books, obviously that does not exist here.


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Jesus was a vigilante to the powers of the world. The world turned against him and they killed him.


It's not really comparable at all if we are talking about an alien demi-god walking around the planet..with 100% evidence of this fact.

Jesus also wasn't a vigilante really. Sure if he saw someone doing something he might step in, but that's not being a vigilante.

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Now with Superman, not a damn thing we could do about it. However I am talking about Superman, the same one as in the movies and comic books.

So what would we have to fear?


The "not a damn thing we could do about it" is what people would fear.


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People fear what they don't understand, but I don't think its Superman's job to cower in fear of people fearing him, he knows who he is right?


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