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Is it right to give bonus points on the SAT's to certain races?

You would think that when someone takes a test like the SAT's that the only thing that should determine their score is the number of correct answers they give.

The problem is this is not true, some races actually receive "bonus" points merely because they belong to a specific race.

Hispanics get around 185 bonus points and blacks get 230.

Am I wrong in thinking this is total bullshit? That your race should not be a factor when it comes to your score, and that nobody deserves "bonus" points for no reason.

Oh and even crazier? Asians tend to get docked points. So it's actually possible for your score to be lessened merely because you belong to a certain race.

Shouldn't we just base scores strictly on the amount of correct answers given as opposed to factoring in their race?

Oh and I want to point out this isn't limited to the SAT's. Apparently stuff like this can happen when it comes to determining a persons credit score, etc.


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Is this really true?


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https://theconservativetreehouse.co...0-bonus-points/

The article was from last year. So I suppose technically it's possible that in the year since the article came out things have changed.

Now since some people might not trust an article from a site called the "conservative treehouse" here is an article from the LA times:

http://www.latimes.com/local/califo...ory.html#page=1

Some dimwits try to make excuses for this by saying it leads to more diversity in colleges, but that just doesn't fly. Diversity is fine, but you don't deserve extra points because you're black or hispanic. That isn't promoting diversity that is racial discrimination.

Have you ever noticed the same people that get upset over racism..tend to have zero problems with racism when they benefit from it?


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Give black and Hispanics bonus points for being oppressed.

Sheeeit


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Also remember: we essentially put Japanese people in concentration camps(not nazi style camps, but camps nonetheless) in the 1940's and they actually are getting docked points lol.

It comes off like we are punishing one group of people for being too intelligent and rewarding other groups for not being intelligent enough.


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Also remember: we essentially put Japanese people in concentration camps(not nazi style camps, but camps nonetheless) in the 1940's and they actually are getting docked points lol.

It comes off like we are punishing one group of people for being too intelligent and rewarding other groups for not being intelligent enough.
actually they were worse than some of the nazi concentration camps. Don't think that the us was any less racist than hitler ever was.

Also, docking Japanese points for being too smart? This is just retarded.


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I'm also not sure why they decided both blacks and hispanics needed bonus points, but that black people deserved more then hispanics.

It's apparently not just SAT scores either. Apparently a few of the other places this also happens is with credit scores and car loans.


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If you don't think black people should get more points for doing less work then you're racist.


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Never heard this. I thought they got extra points on civil service exams.


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It doesn't surprise me most people don't know about it..because it's completely ridiculous.

I mean some of the figures they were looking at for this were from Princeton. There are apparent Ivy League schools granting people higher scores because they are black.

The fact of the matter is you shouldn't be given extra points for your race on any exam. You might as well give people points for spelling their name correctly or for successfully remembering their phone numbers.


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If you don't think black people should get more points for doing less work then you're racist.


I can almost guarantee you if some white students got together to protest this inequality they'd be called racists.


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Do white people get extra points for having to do the bulk of the work in keeping society running/civilization advancing? If not, then no one should get extra points.


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Do white people get extra points for having to do the bulk of the work in keeping society running/civilization advancing? If not, then no one should get extra points.


You are black?


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Do white people get extra points for having to do the bulk of the work in keeping society running/civilization advancing? If not, then no one should get extra points.


They do not. I'm actually surprised there isn't more uproar from blacks. If I was black I would essentially feel like they were, in a way, saying I can't compete intellectually with hispanics, whites, and especially asians.


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You are black?

Yes, yes i am.


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Haha, I'm taking all your college spots!

GET MAD!


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Smh...

Back in '97 I scored a 1330 PSAT and 1470 on my SAT when it was still out of a possible 1600. The issue isn't race, it's the fact a lot of these families don't promote education, and giving them a handicap is not only insulting, it defeats the purpose of an aptitude test.


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The OP is a complete misrepresentation of what the study (and the article discussing it not linked in the OP, but here you go) is actually about. No one gets bonus points on the SAT. What the study showed is that the SAT is not a one to one college admission ticket. They looked at test scores of those admitted to college and found that if we were to look solely at them, less blacks and Hispanics would be admitted. However, colleges never solely looked at SAT scores, and they also shouldn't, because the SAT is not a general aptitude test for everything, it tests certain aspects of education, there are many aspects it does not take into account, which college admission boards luckily do take into account.


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Yes, yes i am.


why are you so pro-white


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why are you so pro-white

I'm anti racist.


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