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Justice Department says it will end use of private prisons - Washington Post

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The Justice Department plans to end its use of private prisons after officials concluded the facilities are both less safe and less effective at providing correctional services than those run by the government.

Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates announced the decision on Thursday in a memo that instructs officials to either decline to renew the contracts for private prison operators when they expire or “substantially reduce” the contracts’ scope. The goal, Yates wrote, is “reducing — and ultimately ending — our use of privately operated prisons.”

“They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs; and as noted in a recent report by the Department’s Office of Inspector General, they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Yates wrote.

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The 13 privately run facilities will not close overnight. Yates said the Justice Department would not terminate existing contracts but instead review those that come up for renewal. She said all of the contracts would come up for renewal over the next five years.

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They finally figured out these "for profit" prisons are probably not such a good idea? Wow.


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They finally figured out these "for profit" prisons are probably not such a good idea? Wow.

I guess so.


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There was MONEY to be Made LEGALLY by running a Prison!?

WHY AM I JUST NOW LEARNING THIS!?


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Highest per capita incarceration rate in the world, so might be corporate prisons failed along with some additional legislation in there.

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Originally posted by Flyattractor
There was MONEY to be Made LEGALLY by running a Prison!?

WHY AM I JUST NOW LEARNING THIS!?


Be honest: would it have really changed anything and caused you to free those people you keep in your basement? Btw just a reminder people can only go so long without water so you should stay on top of that.


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Originally posted by Flyattractor
There was MONEY to be Made LEGALLY by running a Prison!?

WHY AM I JUST NOW LEARNING THIS!?


They're only really profitable if you give kickbacks to judges to fill your prisons.

Like so.

Of course, these are the people who get caught. Odds are, many, many more got away with it and profited heavily.


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Be honest: would it have really changed anything and caused you to free those people you keep in your basement? Btw just a reminder people can only go so long without water so you should stay on top of that.


The PEOPLE in my Basement surve an diff purpose then for financial gain....
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They're only really profitable if you give kickbacks to judges to fill your prisons.

Like so.

Of course, these are the people who get caught. Odds are, many, many more got away with it and profited heavily.


I aint givin no LIBERAL JUDGE MY MONEY! They can go steal their own.


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Food and shelter in exchange for forced labor. Where have I heard this before?

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Food and shelter in exchange for forced labor. Where have I heard this before?


Well man the answer to your question is..you've heard this all throughout history.


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Not surprising, but there's still a long way to go. The Federal Government still pays for both massive privately owned regional jails and state prisons. Quite the business, especially for the states that know what they're doing. Virginia, for instance, has or currently does import prisoners from Pennsylvania, Wyoming, California, The Virgin Islands, and a few other locales in exchange for both money from those states and additional Federal funds.

As mentioned above, we have the highest per capita prison population, and it ain't cause America is the most criminally-minded population on earth. Peonage finally ended around 1958 I believe and after that the powers that be just found yet another way to stay rich by locking people up. The only silver lining is that it seems a number of wardens and government officials that have actually witnessed certain European prisons in action are pushing for real reform to move towards correction during incarceration and one would hope as well more steps towards prevention rather than only prosecution after the fact.

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^^^Interesting.

I'd forgotten about this thread.


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I'll just figure you're agreeing with me.


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Also kudos on the government actually intelligently cutting spending. That said, let's hope that in days to come they look at things in the long view rather than throwing funding at programs just because the right politicians and lobbyists tout them up. I'm not sure if privately run prisons and jails actually even presented as a lower cost alternative at the start, or at least something that would be more effective at correction and providing inmate safety, but I'm doubtful on all accounts that if so it was more than a cursory presentation in that regard.

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Studies show that there are 18.75% less anal rapes in private prisons compared to Federal


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