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Did Islam take a wrong turn?

http://nation.com.pk/blogs/22-Feb-2...ke-a-wrong-turn

Basically, the article discusses the competing philosophers of two influential Muslim philosophers, and how Ibn Rushd's rationalist views were ignored by Al Ghazali's sharia beliefs, and how that effected the secular development of both Islam and Christian Europe. I thought this would be a good article for those wondering why Islam is so dogmatic.


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it took a wrong turn by being a fake religion


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Did this thread get posted in the wrong forum?


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Does it matter?


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Yeah, and at Albuquerque no less.


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"I am sure these days many decent Muslim men and women often wonder why countries with Muslim majority are so backwards technologically, militarily and politically compared with the nations of West?"

Maybe Allah has an explanation. What could it be about this religion that makes it so backwards?


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This is a good question. Ignore the haters. I haven't read the article yet but I will. But it also reminded me of this video.

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What could it be about this religion that makes it so backwards?


maybe because its based on a twisted view of the bible

and ishmael and all his descendants are jealous of the jews


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The "wrong turn" was the creation of Islam.


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it took a wrong turn by being a fake religion

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Islam is resistant to reform because sharia is so intertwined with politics and the state.


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Islam is resistant to reform because sharia is so intertwined with politics and the state.


Lies and nonsense. No doubt this upstanding Muslim citizen that beheaded someone a few years ago can be reformed.

Police reveal what Muslim man said after beheading co-worker in Oklahoma

You know what I feel would help him reform? A firing squad.


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^ Shit like that is going to make liberals even more afraid of admitting the connection between behavior like this and Islamic teachings. Because the guy said he thought he was being oppressed.


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This is a good question. Ignore the haters. I haven't read the article yet but I will. But it also reminded me of this video.

Anyone who thinks that Islam is entirely barbaric should research the Golden Age of Islam. Modern medicine, hospitals, mathematics, education, politics, philosophy, architecture; the Golden Age of Islam was an incredibly important and influential part of human history. Sick people got treatment regardless of class, gender or religion, religious freedom was permitted, anyone could attend university so long as they could support themselves through their studies. In fact, the oldest university in the world that still hands out degrees is from the GAoI, in Morocco, I believe (might be wrong there).


Then that ****er Genghis Khan came in, sacked Baghdad, destroyed the complex political systems in place, and from there rose the prevalent form of Islam found in the middle east today, which came from the literalist and fundamentalist side of Islam.


So basically, if you want someone to blame for Islamic terrorism, blame Genghis.


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^ Shit like that is going to make liberals even more afraid of admitting the connection between behavior like this and Islamic teachings. Because the guy said he thought he was being oppressed.


Which is always strange given that in a lot of muslim countries females are way way more oppressed lol. They mutilate genitals and f*ck them as children. But meh, evil white people.


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Anyone who thinks that Islam is entirely barbaric should research the Golden Age of Islam. Modern medicine, hospitals, mathematics, education, politics, philosophy, architecture; the Golden Age of Islam was an incredibly important and influential part of human history. Sick people got treatment regardless of class, gender or religion, religious freedom was permitted, anyone could attend university so long as they could support themselves through their studies. In fact, the oldest university in the world that still hands out degrees is from the GAoI, in Morocco, I believe (might be wrong there).


Then that ****er Genghis Khan came in, sacked Baghdad, destroyed the complex political systems in place, and from there rose the prevalent form of Islam found in the middle east today, which came from the literalist and fundamentalist side of Islam.


So basically, if you want someone to blame for Islamic terrorism, blame Genghis.


Next time London gets attacked I will be sure to shake my fist in the general direction of Genghis Khans ghost. If you and I both do it...it will send an even stronger message.


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dude theyre doing that shit in this country now and libs say ****ing nothing


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dude theyre doing that shit in this country now and libs say ****ing nothing


This is a lie. They don't say nothing. They just say it's workplace violence.


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Which is always strange given that in a lot of muslim countries females are way way more oppressed lol. They mutilate genitals and f*ck them as children. But meh, evil white people.



Yeah. sad


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Next time London gets attacked I will be sure to shake my fist in the general direction of Genghis Khans ghost. If you and I both do it...it will send an even stronger message.
Well, I mean this was in the 13th Century, so maybe we can cut Genghis a tiny bit of slack. Maybe. He was a shifty **** though.


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