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When did all this non binary gender become an issue?

I'll be honest, more than two genders is not something I'd ever thought of. Not saying it's scientifically wrong or right and certainly not restricting how people choose to see themselves or be seen.

It suddenly become an issue, was it alway an issue? Did I just miss it?


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I'll be honest, more than two genders is not something I'd ever thought of. Not saying it's scientifically wrong or right and certainly not restricting how people choose to see themselves or be seen.

It suddenly become an issue, was it alway an issue? Did I just miss it?


When fits were thrown cuz grown men were being denied the ability to piss and shit in the ladies room is probably around the time this became an issue. This first really stirred up 3-4 years ago.


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When lunatics began to ignore basic biology.


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When fits were thrown cuz grown men were being denied the ability to piss and shit in the ladies room is probably around the time this became an issue. This first really stirred up 3-4 years ago.

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InInteresting, why do you think it bevome a thing so quickly?


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When lunatics began to ignore basic biology.


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When lunatics began to ignore basic biology.
what are your thoughts on trans men and women imp.


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InInteresting, why do you think it bevome a thing so quickly?


YouTubers.

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YouTubers.
always a good point. When it comes to new ideas.


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This Trans thing has been an issue since the early 90s.

SNL did a skit on it in the early 90s with so much relevant buzzwords that it seems like it came out in 2014.


This became a thing when political correctness took off in the late 80s and resulted in the ultra-PC culture in the education and professional world in the early 90s. It has continued on since then.


The true origins were the civil rights movements.


Gartner has a Hype Cycle for technology and I think these social trends sometimes follow the Hype Cycle:

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With a long leading but slowing building beginning from the 50s until the explosion in the 80s. And you can clearly see the trough of disillusionment in the late 90s where super edgy humor, movies, and video games backlashed against the PC movement.


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lol!


Gartner has to sell their models somehow.


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YouTubers.


But how does an entertainment option (Social media, online streaming) translate into policy action in the legislative offices, and the universities?


Like Putinbot1, I'm not sure how these things become "things". But I'm most interested in how things become things with real consequences, if they are ignored. How "raising awareness" turns in to policy initiatives that cause people to lose their jobs, for example.


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what are your thoughts on trans men and women imp.


My opinion is that calling a ham sandwich a PB&J doesn’t make a ham sandwich a PB&J not matter how much you want a ham sandwich to be a PB&J.

A man who undergoes “sexual reassignment” surgery and has his testicles cut off and his penis turned inside out to simulate a vagina is not a woman. He’s a man who has had his testicles cut off and his penis turned inside out to simulate a vagina.

XX, XY, or, in very rare cases, XXY aka Klinefelter syndrome.

I do not accept the term “non-binary”.

I’m not trans-phobic, though. Live and let live.


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Like Putinbot1, I'm not sure how these things become "things". But I'm most interested in how things become things with real consequences, if they are ignored. How "raising awareness" turns in to policy initiatives that cause people to lose their jobs, for example.


But they're not ignored. A big part of the perpetuation of it is prominent YouTubers who are anti-sjw and have far larger followings than the sjws themselves. Unfortunately for them a lot of them have been pigeonholed as right wing which then allows the sjw contingent to then cry they are being victimised by bigots and need legal protection to prevent it. Thus it gets into legislation.

If they actually we're ignored the sjws wouldn't be able to play the victim.

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So now we can look forward to SHIT becoming an Actual Gender now?

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So I googled, as admittedly I wasn't 100% sure what "non binary gender meant":

"Genderqueer, also known as non-binary, is a catch-all category for gender identities that are not exclusively masculine or feminine‍—‌identities which are outside the gender binary and cisnormativity. Genderqueer people may express a combination of masculinity and femininity, or neither, in their gender expression." -snip


^ That has nothing to do with biological sex. I've met women who had distinct what would be considered classic gender masculine traits and I've met men who had distinct what would be considered classic gender feminine traits.

I'm willing to bet everyone here (at leat the people who leave the safety bubble of their homes) has at one point of another met someone similar.


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More or less, it's the term you use if Butch or Tomboy is offensive (Although I've personally seen women proudly refer to themselves as butch, but offense varies from person to person.. and of course, the male designations tend to be nothing but offensive, like "sissyboy"..)


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