Anyone who's read my posts, knows if nothing else, I'm very paranoid about power. I think criticism of those in power is a GOOD thing.
I also think people should be judged as fairly as possible. It's my opinion that police officers are often judged very unfairly.
Place yourself in the shoes of a police officer. You could be in a very high crime area, where people routinely gun down each other over "nothing". Maybe you're patroling a high theft area. Maybe someone stabbed someone else in a sports bar. Maybe in a parking lot, a man shot another man for complaining he was leaning against his car. (Both are things that happened only a few towns over from me.)
It's easy to armchair quarterback every time a story comes out where an officer supposedly "abuses" someone fighting against being cuffed. It's easy to call "murder" when a suspect refuses to obey police commands, pulls an object out of a pocket (Maybe it's a gun, maybe it's a phone.).
The fact is:
1. Police officers are human, and have the same self preservation instincts you do. Expecting them to be 100% certain of an object a belligerent suspect is holding, where being wrong could mean they die, is NOT reasonable. No one judging them would be able to maintain such a high standard.
2. The "other" person gets to make choices, too. If they choose to run, that has a consequence. If they choose to fight back, that's on them.
In most of these cases, the police are treated like the adult in the room, while the suspect/victim is treated as if they have no free will, at all. They aren't under the microscope, the officer is.
Which, imo, is incredibly unfair.
Of course, it also should be acknowledged that there are people who spin in the other direction. The police can do no wrong, and the suspect is always to blame.
That's also unfair, and not something to condone, imo. Scrutiny IS a good thing, provided we're using reasonable standards and not habitually holding one side to a ridiculously high, unfair standard.
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at risk of burning a strawman: it's not reasonable to give them the power of law/life/death/etc and not expect them to act far more appropriately than a freshly traumatized victim or a criminal.
their job is to deal with this shit while keeping their adult pants on. it's part of their basic job description, and nobody forced them to choose the job. if cops were drafted, maybe i'd have a way different opinion.
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And it's the height of idiocy to forget that cops are still human at the end of the day
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what does that even mean specifically and exclusively for police?
we can just use that to excuse anyone. literally everyone on this planet is 'just human'. should we just suspend all law and responsibility because, you know, just human?
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It means stow your bullshit. Nobody said they were forced to join, it doesn't mean we don't take into account the human factor.
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which law has always done. see 'crimes of passion', as well as every occurrence of grotesque leniency on deliberate criminal/homocidal behavior displayed by corrupt officers.
police are entitled to the same due process as everyone else, and if an officer is traumatized at the scene and acts inappropriately, that will be reviewed as it fits the situation. every situation is different and you can't use 'just human' as some blanket forgiveness tactic
but then again that puts us on the dreaded topic of 'nuance' which you refuse to confront.
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i brought up points on the topic and you just did your tiny barker routine.
have fun with your pretend win, though. super-mature as always
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more barking. my points offended you, so now you need to derail/distract/deflect because fee-fees.
out of respect for OP's hastily conceived-yet-interesting topic, i'll ignore your time-waster troll shenanigans.
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I can sympathize with both sides of this very scratched coin. On one hand I do believe that law enforcement are the target of many “rebellious” and “radical” movements, I.e antifa mental midgets. They’re even targeted by the milleu of inner city mentalities that hold the idea that cops are out to get them, which is the worst form of victim mindset that sees police as robots rather than people.
At the other end of the spectrum there lies the notion that police have an unequivocal authority over civilians, therefore must be held to a higher moral standard since they wield such power.
Both of these mindsets are environmental and are missing key elements from the other.
I respect cops as it’s a hard job and a necessary job, but we also can’t turn a blind eye to police abuses when they happen as everyone who joins up isn’t fit to do the job, there are bad apples unfortunately.
The “they’re only human” is a yes/no angle, while true, these people are also given great power, over life and death choices sometimes. They need to be better considering this fact.
I’d also argue from a legal standpoint cops are given the benefit of the doubt when a situation happens more often than not.
In the end, Uncle Ben’s law comes to mind for anyone wanting to be an officer “with great power comes responsibility”. Personally, better training for some of these cops wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I’ve had far more positive experiences with cops than negative. But you’ve also travelled around the world so your experiences would likely be more diverse than mine.
Did have a cop almost draw his gun on me once because I raised my hand and said “excuse me officer, but...” But I don’t think that’s normal, guy was probably too high-strung to he’s cop.
or maybe he mistook the dildo in your hand for a weapon.
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