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Slavery Reparations would cost $17.1 trillion


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Unacceptable, and did you hear about this "gay reparations" stuff too?


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Can the families of the Northerners get reparations for fighting in the Civil War to end Slavery, as well?

Based on the death count, inflation, future value, disability, and pain and suffering, I did a massive amount of math to come up with the true cost of reparations for the families of the North:

$32.56 trillion

That's a conservative estimate (pun not intended). The reparations must be paid by the black population (not recent immigrants) and the Southern States.

To be fair, we can just subtract the cost of reparations for slavery from that balance and we are left with $15.46 trillion. The cost should be split 50-50 between the non-immigrant-black community and the Southern States.

Based on my estimate, I am owed $30,920*2 for each of my ancestors who fought in the Civil War on the side of the North and died. That's a low-ball figure, as you can tell.

So when do I get my check?


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Hasn't that been paid for in full in terms of welfare over the years after slavery was abolished?

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Apparently there is a Supreme Court ruling that states the US govemrnet is not responsible to repay for historical injustices. So I think it’s a moot point,


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So no one is asking for reparations in financial terms using this metric and reparations like this can't be given anyway in this way...


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Reparations for slavery is silly; that ship has sailed a long time ago. Still, one could make a case for reparations for Jim Crow.


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Can the families of the Northerners get reparations for fighting in the Civil War to end Slavery, as well?

Based on the death count, inflation, future value, disability, and pain and suffering, I did a massive amount of math to come up with the true cost of reparations for the families of the North:

$32.56 trillion

That's a conservative estimate (pun not intended). The reparations must be paid by the black population (not recent immigrants) and the Southern States.

To be fair, we can just subtract the cost of reparations for slavery from that balance and we are left with $15.46 trillion. The cost should be split 50-50 between the non-immigrant-black community and the Southern States.

Based on my estimate, I am owed $30,920*2 for each of my ancestors who fought in the Civil War on the side of the North and died. That's a low-ball figure, as you can tell.

So when do I get my check?


That's already been paid tenfold through 150+ years of White privilege.

Where you can walk down the street and a cop won't pull over and ask you what you're doing and do you have any drugs/weapons on you.


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That's already been paid tenfold through 150+ years of White privilege.

Where you can walk down the street and a cop won't pull over and ask you what you're doing and do you have any drugs/weapons on you.
Waits for some racial sterotyping and bigoted response in reply.


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"White privilege". LOL The retarded ass go-to response from snowflakes who hate white people and think they are the cause of all the world's problems... smh.

There's no such thing as white privilege.


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That's already been paid tenfold through 150+ years of White privilege.

Where you can walk down the street and a cop won't pull over and ask you what you're doing and do you have any drugs/weapons on you.


The calculation takes this into consideration.

Without the white-privilege variable, the cost skyrockets up to $44 trillion. Since most people on the right and in the middle would disagree with how heavily I weighted white privilege because most of white privilege is actually a racist myth (racist against colored and white alike), my estimates are far too generous to the racist people who tout "white-privilege" as a legitimate civil talking point.

In other words, you're welcome.


Also, the reparations can only be paid to people who have provable direct ancestors who fought on the side of the North. So, likely, that payback pool will be even smaller and the individual payouts much larger. I will recommend a "proof" window of 6 months. That way, any and all people who try to generate proof outside of that window will not get another chance and the question of reparations will never again be viable.


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That's already been paid tenfold through 150+ years of White privilege.

Where you can walk down the street and a cop won't pull over and ask you what you're doing and do you have any drugs/weapons on you.


Nice.

So I guess those white people that lives in poverty and close to it forgot they have white privilege?

It’s people and your ilk with that mind set that’s continues to **** race relations in this country. This goes for any race by the way.

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The calculation takes this into consideration.

Without the white-privilege variable, the cost skyrockets up to $44 trillion. Since most people on the right and in the middle would disagree with how heavily I weighted white privilege because most of white privilege is actually a racist myth (racist against colored and white alike), my estimates are far too generous to the racist people who tout "white-privilege" as a legitimate civil talking point.

In other words, you're welcome.


Also, the reparations can only be paid to people who have provable direct ancestors who fought on the side of the North. So, likely, that payback pool will be even smaller and the individual payouts much larger. I will recommend a "proof" window of 6 months. That way, any and all people who try to generate proof outside of that window will not get another chance and the question of reparations will never again be viable.
150+ years of White privilege is worth 165+ trillion, so your numbers are off.

And that only counting White Privilege after slavery ended, if we were to count White Privilege since the found of America, that's easily over 500 trillion, compounding and such.


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That's already been paid tenfold through 150+ years of White privilege.

Where you can walk down the street and a cop won't pull over and ask you what you're doing and do you have any drugs/weapons on you.


That’s happened to me a couple times actually. So where’s my money at?

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150+ years of White privilege is worth 165+ trillion, so your numbers are off.


That's where you're wrong. The accumulative wealth for the US doesn't exceed $75 trillion since then so I can tell you're just making numbers up to win a pretend argument. lol

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And that only counting White Privilege after slavery ended, if we were to count White Privilege since the found of America, that's easily over 500 trillion, compounding and such.


Right, all accounted for already in the calculation where the less than 2% of slave owners were from the South: remember that 50% of the reparations are due from the Southern States who fought against the North. You didn't think this point through, did you? smile

Also, this is before I've weighted the entirely-not-white-privilege of indentured servitude of my ancestors, against the North. Or else we are looking at draining the cumulative wealth of the US completely.


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That's where you're wrong. The accumulative wealth for the US doesn't exceed $75 trillion since then so I can tell you're just making numbers up to win a pretend argument. lol



Right, all accounted for already in the calculation where the less than 2% of slave owners were from the South: remember that 50% of the reparations are due from the Southern States who fought against the North. You didn't think this point through, did you? smile

Also, this is before I've weighted the entirely-not-white-privilege of indentured servitude of my ancestors, against the North. Or else we are looking at draining the cumulative wealth of the US completely.



Accumulative wealth is irrelevant to what is owed. eg You can sue someone for a billion dollars, but if they don't have it and have zero means to get it, you're not getting it. You also didn't account for inflation it seems. Never forget inflation, DDM.

You're assuming one had to be a slave owner or descendant of a slave owner to have benefited from the 243 years of White Privilege, this is a faulty assumption.


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That’s happened to me a couple times actually. So where’s my money at?


You're just saying this.


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Accumulative wealth is irrelevant to what is owed.


That's incorrect. That's how now damages are awarded. Since slavery never happened to anyone alive from the pre-Civil War Era and none of my dead Northerner Veterans are alive, no punative damages can be awarded: only inflation and future value costs not to exceed the cumulative wealth of the nation: it still has to exist. You can't idiotically bankrupt the nation like you're trying to do.

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You also didn't account for inflation it seems. Never forget inflation, DDM.


I did:

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Based on the death count, inflation, future value, disability, and pain and suffering, I did a massive amount of math to come up with the true cost of reparations for the families of the North:

$32.56 trillion.



Man, I'm good.


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You're assuming one had to be a slave owner or descendant of a slave owner to have benefited from the 243 years of White Privilege, this is a faulty assumption.


You're incorrect on both your years and your "privilege."

Slavery existed in the US since the 1600s.

But my ancestors arrived in the 1700s, were not slaver owners, lived in non-slave owning states, and fought against slave ownership since the beginning. We used our own wealth to finance the abolitionist movement, as well.

Indentured servitude was a problem for some of my ancestors so we experienced the exact opposite of white privilege. If you want to bring in white privilege, most of which is a myth, then the indentured servitude costs vastly outweigh even liberal estimates of applicable white privilege.


Face it: reparations are owed to me for the sacrifices we made for this country. Black people and the Southern States owe me a massive reparations check for all the blood, money, sweat, and tears we put into this nation.

You are part of the people who benefited from my ancestors being enslaved.


Also, I'm likely 2%-5% black. So my reparations payment will be reduced a bit.


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Nice.

So I guess those white people that lives in poverty and close to it forgot they have white privilege?

It’s people and your ilk with that mind set that’s continues to **** race relations in this country. This goes for any race by the way.



Great post and spot-on. thumb up


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So I did some numbers, 12-ish percent of 329-ish million is 41-ish million. That's how many-ish Black people are in the US. That's going to be a lot of high-end billionaires in the US and since we know billionaires are good for the economy, especially when we give them the biggest tax breaks, well, it all makes sense to do it.

Though the 41million isn't correct, as not every Black person in the US is a descendant of US slaves, some migrated long after. So that just means more ish for a smaller amount of people.


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