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More than 7400 Back Americans Murdered Each Year in the US

Summary

7,407 black murder victims in 2018

Black homicide offenders make up 54.9% of all homicides when the race is known.



Background

Homicide Crime Statistics are collected by the FBI



Methods

FBI crime statistics collection methodology found here:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....ic-pages/murder



Findings

Out of 14,123 intentional homicides, black people make up 7,407 of those victims. This constitutes 52.4% of all homicide victims.

When the race is known, out of 11,514 offenders, 6,318 are black. This constitutes 54.9% of all offenders when race is known.


Interpretation

Black people constitute over half of the murder offenders and victims.Black people are being killed in absurd numbers each year.




Conclusion

Black Lives Matter and we need to do better for the black community.

What are you doing to stop black homicides?

Is there a local chapter for stopping violence in your city or town? If not, I recommend starting one.

Are there local charities and volunteer organizations you can participate in to help uplift your local community? If so, I recommend joining those.

Are you aware of the Anti-Corruption Act? Many of the disenfranchised voters are victims of corruption and this affects everyone unless you are in the top 10% of income earners (Fact: based on 30+ of data collected in a large Princeton study: if you are in the bottom 90% of income earners, your opinion on laws has little to near zero affect on which laws get passed, removed, or updated). I recommend you work on getting anti-corruption measures passed at the local and state level. These anti-corruption activities will directly benefit the black and Latino communities as well as any other local groups who may be struggling.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....panded-homicide


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Why lie? These are murders committed by white supremacists in blackface.

You racist closet fascist nazi death eater.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Summary

7,407 black murder victims in 2018

Black homicide offenders make up 54.9% of all homicides when the race is known.



Background

Homicide Crime Statistics are collected by the FBI



Methods

FBI crime statistics collection methodology found here:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....ic-pages/murder



Findings

Out of 14,123 intentional homicides, black people make up 7,407 of those victims. This constitutes 52.4% of all homicide victims.

When the race is known, out of 11,514 offenders, 6,318 are black. This constitutes 54.9% of all offenders when race is known.


Interpretation

Black people constitute over half of the murder offenders and victims.Black people are being killed in absurd numbers each year.




Conclusion

Black Lives Matter and we need to do better for the black community.

What are you doing to stop black homicides?

Is there a local chapter for stopping violence in your city or town? If not, I recommend starting one.

Are there local charities and volunteer organizations you can participate in to help uplift your local community? If so, I recommend joining those.

Are you aware of the Anti-Corruption Act? Many of the disenfranchised voters are victims of corruption and this affects everyone unless you are in the top 10% of income earners (Fact: based on 30+ of data collected in a large Princeton study: if you are in the bottom 90% of income earners, your opinion on laws has little to near zero affect on which laws get passed, removed, or updated). I recommend you work on getting anti-corruption measures passed at the local and state level. These anti-corruption activities will directly benefit the black and Latino communities as well as any other local groups who may be struggling.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....panded-homicide
yeah black on black violence stems from poverty and lack of life chances. I mean, it was only a decade before I was born segregation was common in southern states. A lot was done to improve this, but the last 3 years have rolled it back 20 at least.

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how come whites in poverty don't commit violence at the same rate? or mexicans in poverty?


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Because there's no such thing as poor white or Mexican people, Surt... duh. LOL.


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Because there's no such thing as poor white or Mexican people, Surt... duh. LOL.

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both whites and mexicans outnumber the black population too and yet they still manage to get their crime on at a much higher rate

im certainly not saying this is inherent in race because I don't think any race is inherently more violent

we need to acknowledge the role the culture plays here.


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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
yeah black on black violence stems from poverty and lack of life chances. I mean, it was only a decade before I was born segregation was common in southern states. A lot was done to improve this, but the last 3 years have rolled it back 20 at least.


And Hispanic committing homicides?


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how come whites in poverty don't commit violence at the same rate? or mexicans in poverty?
They do, the percentages proportionally would be interesting of both blacks in poverty and number committing crimes, of course when you factor in relative sentencing etc and life chances, you really start to get somewhere. But take single factors in isolation... that's not how life works.

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yeah black on black violence stems from poverty and lack of life chances. I mean, it was only a decade before I was born segregation was common in southern states. A lot was done to improve this, but the last 3 years have rolled it back 20 at least.
It's a big issue, and hard to solve. These areas need to be properly developed. But a lot of them are crime-ridden, and would need serious policing if development were to happen. But police don't want to go into those areas, because of how dangerous they are. The ones who do go in will find themselves vilified and scrutinised even just for doing their job. And if a black person got killed, regardless of if it were justified or not, there'd be riots.

What exactly can be done? I'm sure there's a way, but it's out of my knowledge range.


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It's a tragedy, particularly the history of his black communities were systematically destroyed by the US ruling elites. There are solutions of course, things like UBI, infrastructure spending, criminal justice reform, would all be big stepping stones towards a better society.

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They do, the percentages proportionally would be interesting of both blacks in poverty and number committing crimes, of course when you factor in relative sentencing etc and life chances, you really start to get somewhere. But take single factors in isolation... that's not how life works.


But they do not commit violence at the same rate. I just showed you the stats in the other thread.

And look at the murder rate. You're making an awful lot of excuses here.


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It's a tragedy, particularly the history of his black communities were systematically destroyed by the US ruling elites. There are solutions of course, things like UBI, infrastructure spending, criminal justice reform, would all be big stepping stones towards a better society.


I'm not gonna say that their circumstances and the oppression they experienced in the past have not impacted the communities.

But the culture is a factor too. Some people don't wanna talk about that because it changes the narrative from "you have to change" to "we have to change".

And yet there will be no real change if it's not acknowledged IMO.


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It's a tragedy, particularly the history of his black communities were systematically destroyed by the US ruling elites. There are solutions of course, things like UBI, infrastructure spending, criminal justice reform, would all be big stepping stones towards a better society.
In terms of criminal justice reform, freeing all non-violent drug-related offenders and legalising marijuana could go a fair ways in the long-term. A lot of black people get jailed just for possession, which is a travesty; it often ruins their future job prospects, and introduces them to a world of crime within the prison system that is all-too-easy to fall into.


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In terms of criminal justice reform, freeing all non-violent drug-related offenders and legalising marijuana could go a fair ways in the long-term. A lot of black people get jailed just for possession, which is a travesty; it often ruins their future job prospects, and introduces them to a world of crime within the prison system that is all-too-easy to fall into.


It all adds up. High violent crime rates lead to an increased police presence in the area. Increased police presence means increased chances people can get nabbed for even the small crimes.

Yes I say free all non-violent drug offenders. Hell if it were up to me I'd make most drugs legal. Weed, coke, lsd, heroin. I might stop at stuff like bath salts.


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In terms of criminal justice reform, freeing all non-violent drug-related offenders and legalising marijuana could go a fair ways in the long-term. A lot of black people get jailed just for possession, which is a travesty; it often ruins their future job prospects, and introduces them to a world of crime within the prison system that is all-too-easy to fall into.
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It all adds up. High violent crime rates lead to an increased police presence in the area. Increased police presence means increased chances people can get nabbed for even the small crimes.

Yes I say free all non-violent drug offenders. Hell if it were up to me I'd make most drugs legal. Weed, coke, lsd, heroin. I might stop at stuff like bath salts.


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Yeah, the war on drugs has been a travesty, and it mostly hits black communities (even if usage is often higher in white ones).

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I'm not gonna say that their circumstances and the oppression they experienced in the past have not impacted the communities.

But the culture is a factor too. Some people don't wanna talk about that because it changes the narrative from "you have to change" to "we have to change".

And yet there will be no real change if it's not acknowledged IMO.


I'd say what you call culture is also a product of systemic forces however. I think the first and foremost goal must be to dismantle the structures, if after that the problems equally persist it may make sense to look more at what you may call cultural issues.

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I'd say what you call culture is also a product of systemic forces however. I think the first and foremost goal must be to dismantle the structures, if after that the problems equally persist it may make sense to look more at what you may call cultural issues.
A fair point. Culture is often defined by circumstance.


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@Artol and Scribble exclusion is the key factor, exclusion from opportunity. It speeds up the poverty cycle and for some groups keeps them locked in it.

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@Artol and Scribble exclusion is the key factor, exclusion from opportunity. It speeds up the poverty cycle and for some groups keeps them locked in it.


Agreed, exclusion is an incredibly valuable lens to use to look at this situation.

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