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So what do we do? Monitor everyone's online communications 24/7? Abolish the right to privacy?


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So what do we do? Monitor everyone's online communications 24/7? Abolish the right to privacy?
Read the article... it's more nuanced than that. It's a long read.

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I'm working my way through it. It's pretty decent, for the Guardian — reads a bit like an Economist article. But the point remains — with all of the info at hand, what do we do about it? Allow people to keep their liberty of privacy, or impose stricter measures and thus limit the liberty of privacy?


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Interesting article. I dont think surveillance or censorship is the answer but we seriously need to promote media literacy. I had family members buy into the conspiracy stuff surrounding 5G and its left me confused and angry. I thought this sort of thing was restricted to the fringe but clearly thats not the case anymore.

People need to understand that the internet is full of misinformation, and an unsourced post on Facebook, WhatsApp or whatever has a very high chance of being completely false.

In terms of politicians using WhatsApp as a political forum though, I think this is quite troubling for transparency. Those sort of conversations need to happen in the public sphere.

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I'm working my way through it. It's pretty decent, for the Guardian — reads a bit like an Economist article. But the point remains — with all of the info at hand, what do we do about it? Allow people to keep their liberty of privacy, or impose stricter measures and thus limit the liberty of privacy?
We educate, fake news be it on here from the usual suspects or offline by Trump is the issue, I've been in groups were they have fallen apart because people moved from posting memes and porn to politics. People are best sticking to memes and porn it the real world.
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Interesting article. I dont think surveillance or censorship is the answer but we seriously need to promote media literacy. I had family members buy into the conspiracy stuff surrounding 5G and its left me confused and angry. I thought this sort of thing was restricted to the fringe but clearly thats not the case anymore.

People need to understand that the internet is full of misinformation, and an unsourced post on Facebook, WhatsApp or whatever has a very high chance of being completely false.

In terms of politicians using WhatsApp as a political forum though, I think this is quite troubling for transparency. Those sort of conversations need to happen in the public sphere.
Great post agree one hundred per cent! thumb up even sources though can be highly suspect like "The Blaze" etc.

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Interesting article. I dont think surveillance or censorship is the answer but we seriously need to promote media literacy. I had family members buy into the conspiracy stuff surrounding 5G and its left me confused and angry. I thought this sort of thing was restricted to the fringe but clearly thats not the case anymore.

People need to understand that the internet is full of misinformation, and an unsourced post on Facebook, WhatsApp or whatever has a very high chance of being completely false.

In terms of politicians using WhatsApp as a political forum though, I think this is quite troubling for transparency. Those sort of conversations need to happen in the public sphere.
An astounding and disappointing amount of ordinary people bought into the 5G / coronavirus thing; conspiracy theory stuff is really starting to enter the public's imagination. Which, on one hand, I'm okay with, as some conspiracy theories have a lot of merit, but not dumb, weird ones like this.

I completely agree with your solution: education is the key, and, specifically, teaching people to think for themselves. It's the only way to combat the misinformation of both the vast expanses of the internet, and the many lies of the MSM.

I also agree about the political stuff. It edges on secret society territory, and must be kept public.


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We educate, fake news be it on here from the usual suspects or offline by Trump is the issue, I've been in groups were they have fallen apart because people moved from posting memes and porn to politics. People are best sticking to memes and porn it the real world.
Fake news is as much the Left's domain as anyone else's, but I agree with your general stance of educating people about the dangers of blindly believing things and playing into confirmation bias.

Nobody is immune to it, but it's best to just get people thinking for themselves as much as possible.


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Fake news is as much the Left's domain as anyone else's, but I agree with your general stance of educating people about the dangers of blindly believing things and playing into confirmation bias.

Nobody is immune to it, but it's best to just get people thinking for themselves as much as possible.
no, it really isn't. That's social media talking.

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An astounding and disappointing amount of ordinary people bought into the 5G / coronavirus thing; conspiracy theory stuff is really starting to enter the public's imagination. Which, on one hand, I'm okay with, as some conspiracy theories have a lot of merit, but not dumb, weird ones like this.

I completely agree with your solution: education is the key, and, specifically, teaching people to think for themselves. It's the only way to combat the misinformation of both the vast expanses of the internet, and the many lies of the MSM.

I also agree about the political stuff. It edges on secret society territory, and must be kept public.
yeah, ethneo and the tinfoil hatters here. laughing out loud

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no, it really isn't. That's social media talking.
If you truly think your chosen tribe is completely free of blame in this misinformation game,

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As for social media, the majority of people I know are left-leaning and they share so many fake news memes it's unbelievable. I see at least three or four a day, often about Trump. All I have to do is a quick Google to find out that it's bullshit, as even left-leaning media outlets don't stoop to that level.

The social media thought-bubble self-brainwashing is just as prevalent to the Left as it is the Right.


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Fake news is as much the Left's domain as anyone else's, but I agree with your general stance of educating people about the dangers of blindly believing things and playing into confirmation bias.

Nobody is immune to it, but it's best to just get people thinking for themselves as much as possible.


Fake news is actually the bread and butter of the left these days. The right doesn't hold a candle to them in the arena of fake news.I laughed when I saw where pooty said "we try to educate" in your quote of his.

LMAO@ at the notion that the left actually educates anyone. They don't educate, they indoctrinate.


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As for social media, the majority of people I know are left-leaning and they share so many fake news memes it's unbelievable. I see at least three or four a day, often about Trump. All I have to do is a quick Google to find out that it's bullshit, as even left-leaning media outlets don't stoop to that level.

The social media thought-bubble self-brainwashing is just as prevalent to the Left as it is the Right.



I disagree. It's actually immensely more prevalent on the left.


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An astounding and disappointing amount of ordinary people bought into the 5G / coronavirus thing; conspiracy theory stuff is really starting to enter the public's imagination. Which, on one hand, I'm okay with, as some conspiracy theories have a lot of merit, but not dumb, weird ones like this.

I completely agree with your solution: education is the key, and, specifically, teaching people to think for themselves. It's the only way to combat the misinformation of both the vast expanses of the internet, and the many lies of the MSM.

I also agree about the political stuff. It edges on secret society territory, and must be kept public.



The "5G/Coronavirus thing" is not a conspiracy theory. No, 5G doesn't directly cause Coronavirus, that's true, but it damages your immune system which then in turn makes you far more susceptible to the virus or any other virus or disease.


There are plenty of informative videos out there showing actual verifiable evidence that 5G is dangerous. It's just that the mainstream media won't cover it because their NWO overlords don't want them to. The elites in the NWO have a worldwide depopulation agenda.

Vaccines are another method they will use to try and accomplish their goals. There are also chemtrails, GMO's, and dangerous chemicals they put in our tap water.


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Fake news is actually the bread and butter of the left these days. The right doesn't hold a candle to them in the arena of fake news.I laughed when I saw where pooty said "we try to educate" in your quote of his.

LMAO@ at the notion that the left actually educates anyone. They don't educate, they indoctrinate.
I'm highly inclined to believe that the Left engages in mass brainwashing. I went to a highly left-leaning university (aren't they all, these days?) and I was subjected to a lot of what I call 'selective education'; we got loads of Marxist stuff, and of course all the postmodernists, because they apparently go hand-in-hand these days (and many of them were Marxists, too). I did a ****ing film degree, and still got all of that shit, with nothing to balance it out. Just left-wing discourse constantly.

I'm one of the few who saw through a lot of it by the end of the course. I played their little game, wrote apolitical essays they couldn't mark me down for (I learned that in first year: never reference Ayn Rand at a left-wing university, they will mark you as low as possible, regardless of essay quality), and got my degree.

Almost everyone else I'm still in contact with who are into politics are socialists now.

Marxist brainwashing. I've seen it in action. Stay away from the Liberal Arts, kids.


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Wrong but Ethneo probably agrees. laughing out loud as well as Voltron.

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I'm highly inclined to believe that the Left engages in mass brainwashing. I went to a highly left-leaning university (aren't they all, these days?) and I was subjected to a lot of what I call 'selective education'; we got loads of Marxist stuff, and of course all the postmodernists, because they apparently go hand-in-hand these days (and many of them were Marxists, too). I did a ****ing film degree, and still got all of that shit, with nothing to balance it out. Just left-wing discourse constantly.

I'm one of the few who saw through a lot of it by the end of the course. I played their little game, wrote apolitical essays they couldn't mark me down for (I learned that in first year: never reference Ayn Rand at a left-wing university, they will mark you as low as possible, regardless of essay quality), and got my degree.

Almost everyone else I'm still in contact with who are into politics are socialists now.

Marxist brainwashing. I've seen it in action. Stay away from the Liberal Arts, kids.



All true, but this post of yours is gonna trigger the hell out of commie pooty lol. You talked bad about his shitty ideology of Marxism.


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The "5G/Coronavirus thing" is not a conspiracy theory. No, 5G doesn't directly cause Coronavirus, that's true, but it damages your immune system which then in turn makes you far more susceptible to the virus or any other virus or disease.


There are plenty of informative videos out there showing actual verifiable evidence that 5G is dangerous. It's just that the mainstream media won't cover it because their NWO overlords don't want them to. The elites in the NWO have a worldwide depopulation agenda.

Vaccines are another method they will use to try and accomplish their goals. There are also chemtrails, GMO's, and dangerous chemicals they put in our tap water.
I have many opinions on this larger topic, but I stay away from it for the most part in public, as it'd become an easy way to smear me as a conspiracy theorist and thus have all my other opinions discarded.


But yes... there is a global conspiracy of elites who are engaged in attempts to depopulate parts of the world, and centralise everything as much as possible. China is the model. I've seen enough to be pretty sure of that by now.


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Wrong but Ethneo probably agrees. laughing out loud as well as Voltron.
I saw it, friendo. Cultural Marxism is real. You should be happy about it, because it's working.


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