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Why are leftists so unhappy?

Always complaining, never happy with anything


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A Progressive mindset supposes that there is something wrong with the current time that could be improved. Seeing such problems can perhaps make someone unhappy, although I don't think leftists or even liberals are generally unhappy people. Of course when the opposing party is in power you may be unhappy about the direction of politics, I would say that was similar under Obama with right wingers though. Another factor is that perhaps unhappy people are more drawn to leftists politics that promise to change things, rather than leftist politics having made them unhappy.

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"Leftisfs" have been protesting/rioting in Portland for around 50 days now. What are they trying to improve?


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"Leftisfs" have been protesting/rioting in Portland for around 50 days now. What are they trying to improve?


I’m sure some of those are leftists, other are probably more interested in civil rights. As far as I understand the protests are about police brutality and an overreach off power in police forces since the 80s. But of course it’s rather decentralized so I’m sure there’s hundreds of reasons why people are protesting.

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A Progressive mindset supposes that there is something wrong with the current time that could be improved. Seeing such problems can perhaps make someone unhappy, although I don't think leftists or even liberals are generally unhappy people. Of course when the opposing party is in power you may be unhappy about the direction of politics, I would say that was similar under Obama with right wingers though. Another factor is that perhaps unhappy people are more drawn to leftists politics that promise to change things, rather than leftist politics having made them unhappy.


The right didn't seem in a perpetual state of being offended and outraged under Obama though, at least not to the degree we are seeing from the left now.

It seems exhausting and I wonder if at times they just get mad cuz they feel that's how they are expected to react.

Look at this Goya boycott, some melted down and yes it was funny, but their hearts just do not seem in it. I wonder how many truly stopped buying Goya products or if they just put out the hashtag. I also wonder how many who said they would never buy Goya again actually used to buy it in the first place.


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The right didn't seem in a perpetual state of being offended and outraged under Obama though, at least not to the degree we are seeing from the left now.

It seems exhausting and I wonder if at times they just get mad cuz they feel that's how they are expected to react.

Look at this Goya boycott, some melted down and yes it was funny, but their hearts just do not seem in it. I wonder how many truly stopped buying Goya products or if they just put out the hashtag. I also wonder how many who said they would never buy Goya again actually used to buy it in the first place.


It didn't to you? It did to me certainly. There were so many stupid controversies, theories of cultural marxist take overs, it was tiresome, very similar to the behaviors of #resist people in terms of Trump now, imo.

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Yeah there was dumb shit like the clothes he wore or the food he ate. That is true.

Yet if Obama had referred to MS-13 members as animals I don't think right wingers would have lost their shit over it.


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Yeah there was dumb shit like the clothes he wore or the food he ate. That is true.

Yet if Obama had referred to MS-13 members as animals I don't think right wingers would have lost their shit over it.


Not if he had called MS-13 that, but if he'd called Ammon Bundy and others in the "Patriot Movement" that however I think they would have.

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Not if he had called MS-13 that, but if he'd called Ammon Bundy and others in the "Patriot Movement" that however I think they would have.


Maybe, but then I don't find that comparable at all cuz it's still not a meltdown over murderers and rapists. I could be wrong, but I don't think the Bundy's killed anyone. In fact, didn't one of the cops kill one of them?

Now imagine the reaction if someone in CHOP had been killed by a cop while resisting arrest.


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In fact wait a minute, I don't remember any epic meltdowns over that cop killing one of the Bundy's.

Maybe I'm forgetting and conservatives did loot and burn in response.


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Maybe, but then I don't find that comparable at all cuz it's still not a meltdown over murderers and rapists. I could be wrong, but I don't think the Bundy's killed anyone. In fact, didn't one of the cops kill one of them?

Now imagine the reaction if someone in CHOP had been killed by a cop while resisting arrest.


I don't think so, but there were people loosely affiliated with the Bundy protest that killed two police officers.

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I’m sure some of those are leftists, other are probably more interested in civil rights. As far as I understand the protests are about police brutality and an overreach off power in police forces since the 80s. But of course it’s rather decentralized so I’m sure there’s hundreds of reasons why people are protesting.


I notice that you didn't address all the rioting, what are they trying to improve by rioting?


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I don't think so, but there were people loosely affiliated with the Bundy protest that killed two police officers.


Okay I checked, it wasn't a member of the Bundy family, but it was someone involved with the movement and the occupation of the building.

I do not recall conservatives melting down and taking to the streets to burn and loot and go after law enforcement.

Do you think the left would have such a restrained response if a cop had killed someone in CHOP?


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I notice that you didn't address all the rioting, what are they trying to improve by rioting?


I think the goals are mainly the same. Perhaps with an added element of radicals who revel in the chaos and aggression that comes with rioting.

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It didn't to you? It did to me certainly. There were so many stupid controversies, theories of cultural marxist take overs, it was tiresome, very similar to the behaviors of #resist people in terms of Trump now, imo.


Really? feel free to post all the month long protests/riots right-wing people took part in under Obama?


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I think the goals are mainly the same. Perhaps with an added element of radicals who revel in the chaos and aggression that comes with rioting.


How does rioting improve all the issues you mentioned?


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Okay I checked, it wasn't a member of the Bundy family, but it was someone involved with the movement and the occupation of the building.

I do not recall conservatives melting down and taking to the streets to burn and loot and go after law enforcement.

Do you think the left would have such a restrained response if a cop had killed someone in CHOP?


I think the left and right have somewhat different problems when it comes to radicalism among their midst. The right is much more likely to have lone wolf (stochastic terrorism) kind of attacks, while the left is more likely to protest and riot. I think there's probably many reasons for that, we could think of.

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How does rioting improve all the issues you mentioned?


I don't know if it will. But historically rioting certainly can lead to political changes that may be in the interest of the rioters. Rioting is a way of amplifying your power and making it more costly to deny your demands, this may lead to more repression that can destroy a movement, or it can lead to concessions. Whether it does anything here idk, and I'm certainly not advocating for it personally.

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I don't know if it will. But historically rioting certainly can lead to political changes that may be in the interest of the rioters. Rioting is a way of amplifying your power and making it more costly to deny your demands, this may lead to more repression that can destroy a movement, or it can lead to concessions. Whether it does anything here idk, and I'm certainly not advocating for it personally.


You just described terrorism.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You just described terrorism.


In some ways yes, as they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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