should people who've had COVID still be required to get the vaccine?
i am speaking from the standpoint of someone who IS fully vaccinated, for the record.
but here's my question-
if someone has already had covid, and still has the antibodies, should they still be required to get vaccinated on top of that? because according to most of the literature i've read, the antibodies offer MORE protection than the vaccine, so a lot of unvaccinated people are wondering why they should even take the "risk" of getting stuck (assuming they already have the antibodies obviously).
nobody "has the antibodies" because you can catch covid more than once. bro-scientists say otherwise, but they're wrong, and retarded as well
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you can also get covid if you've been vaccinated. neither offer 100% immunity.
the point is that if you've had covid, you DO carry antibodies that offer more protection than the vaccine. with that in mind, do you think the vaccine should be pushed on the people with those antibodies?
nope, you're quoting bro science and ignoring variants
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If you've had covvid you shouldn't be forced to get vaccinated, you have antibodies even if their are variants, thats not broscience its just plain science.
No one should ever be forced to take any vaccine against their will ever... period. I'd like to see any vaccine fascist motherf**kers try to force any vaccine on me against my will. It wouldn't end well for them I promise. And spare me any bullshit about how it is my responsibility to get vaxxed in order to "protect others". Anyone who tries to guilt me like in order to take something i don't want will get the middle finger and a face full of spit I don't give a shit who they are.
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There is no requirement for anyone to get the vaccine. So the question is bunk to begin with.
Though there is evidence suggesting that it's a very good idea to get vaccinated if you've had covid in the past. Studies are showing that people who had covid, and then get vaccinated afterwards have the most robust defense against the disease imaginable. Their antibodies are different than those who only get vaccinated, and it seems may be immune against all coronaviruses.
The emerging evidence suggests that natural immunity via infection and immunity via vaccination have different positive responses. Natural immunity gives protection across a broader range of variants and vaccinations protect more against severe symptoms. Vaccinations also result in longer immunity (by between 3 and 9 months depending on individual factors. So the latest meta-analysis suggests anyway.
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I wish all governors were as against unconstitutional, tyrannical vaccine mandates as governor DeSantis is. He seems to be the most freedom-loving governor out there. A real American patriot.
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I know I said I was done with voting in federal elections but I wouldn't hesitate to vote for DeSantis if he ran for the presidency.
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Re: should people who've had COVID still be required to get the vaccine?
Had COVID how recently? Has what antibody levels? We don't know for exactly how long that immunity is good for, and as far as I'm aware, we're not doing any widespread antibody testing either. So better to err on the side of caution, I say.
Besides, it seems like we're all going to need boosters at some point, regardless of how we acquired immunity. Even if we grant them this loophole now, the antivaxxer crowd will still need to get over this at some point, unless they plan on contracting COVID every year-or-so for the rest of their lives. Which, of course, kind of defeats the purpose of this whole exercise.
Maybe so, but even if that's true, it's still better to get the vaccine than not. More is better.
Emphasis on your quotation marks. Something like half of the world population has already been vaccinated; there's hardly any risk to speak of. Far greater is the risk of not being vaccinated, and increasing your odds of contracting COVID again. The suspicions surrounding vaccines tend not to be based in any sort of reason, so I don't feel particularly inclined to entertain this excuse.
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Like a few others have said: the body's natural resistance, post-COVID, gives you a broader scope of resistance. Stacking the vaccine on top of that gives you a broader depth of resistance.
So while I disagree with any sort of formal mandate, the benefits of the vaccine would still be worthwhile in this scenario.
They just never attribute it to potential vax complications, the same way they attribute every death to covid-related complications even if the death itself is not related in any way.
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