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Alexander vs Troy

Which movie did you think was better?

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alexander was utter shit


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i dont know erm

havent seen troy - but Alexander was - even though Collin Farrel's legs were nicely shaven


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i havent seen Alexander but anyway I love Troy so..meh


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Troy, Alexander was hard to sit through, but i didnt wanna just through away my 10 bucks.

good thing the choc top was nice, otherwise it would of been a bad experience.


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hehe well except for the horrible casting in both movies Collin Farrel and Angelina Jolie in Alexander, Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt in Troy. I think Alexander was way way way better than Troy, I don't see why people dislike it that much.


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lol i know the cast sucked ass... there were bad things from both movies...

in troy: all the achilles's butt scenes... wtf was up with that? laughing out loud

alexander: the battles sucked... i didnt like the way they fought them... though the last one wa great with the elephants eek!

but Id say Troy was better...

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THey both sucked big time.I do'nt care for either of them.JM


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NOw I didn't go to see Alexander to see battles, most epic movies suck at portraying battles, altho the last one with the elephants was a nice one.


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lol it was indeed

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The battle scenes in Alexander were amazing, and they leave the ones in Troy standing. Bloody, dusty, confused, chaotic, brutal, frantic, HUGE- this is the depiction of ancient warfare I have been waiting for! I think the battle of Gaugamela was even better than the battle of Pelinor fields in ROTK, and I thought THAT was spectacular, but Gaugamela just felt so much more REAL.

And Colin Farrell does battle rage better than anyone I've ever seen! The part where he was riding through the forest in the battle against the elephants, cutting down men with such swift and exultant brutality, I myself wanted to take up a sword and fight for him, which made me understand and appreciate the loyalty he commanded from his troops better than at any other point in the film.

My only complaint about the battles is that there were not enough of them- the film only showed two battles out of a campaign of 13 years. But I was happy with what they did show, and if they had spread the budget more thinly, giving us more battles but making them less impressive, I would have felt cheated anyway.

Overall I enjoyed it more than Troy- I thought the acting was good, the chemistry between the characters was good, the sets and costumes were not only beautiful they were also more accurate than in Troy, and I think on the whole more thought was put into historical accuracy I even got used to the accents after a while, and having Irish Greeks didnt really bother me. I was able to enjoy Alexander as a film, and although it has been pretty badly panned in the UK press, I dont think it was a bad film at all. I'd give it a solid 7.

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btw is it true that alexander was gay? not in the movie i mean in real life

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what Troy was the best movie in 04!

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Alexander was more on the psychlogicall side than Troy and the acting was OK...well, I enjoyed it.

The gay thing was a bit off,but, oh well, nothing is perfect.

The fight with the elephants was utterly cool! Did you know that when they shot it, the horse-Ducipal-attacked the elephant for real--it bit its leg---then they had to hold back the elephant....

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Neither of them were outstanding but Alexander.


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Gay wasn't a word then, it was natural in those times apparently for men to feel close to men in the same way they were with women.

Nothing wrong if he did anyway...

I believe Alexander did have relations with men, but more with women.

It is believed he took part in pederasty.

as for the films, I prefered Alexander over Troy, even though both films were horribly miscast.

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What you mean miscast???

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Troy was much better in my opinion.

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Yeah, it`s a known fact that men in those times were like that--but it bothered me a bit... I preffer the 'normally oriented' heroes, so to say. Anyway, Alexander, overall, is a pretty awesome pic--it stays true to the historical facts and does a marvelous job with the sets.

Alex is way better than Troy.

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