OK..I wanted to make a new thread. Eeh, this is all about the genealogical connections of the characters from LOTR, The Silmarillion, etc. that we could reveal may it be from our own realizations or from the texts in the book (appendices, family tree, etc.). I was inspired by one of the threads here..LOL..
Beware! This will be mind-boggling and confusing..
I'll start so you'll have an idea.
Elendil is a descendant of the line of Elros, brother of Elrond half-elven.
Aragorn son of Arathorn II is a descendant of Elendil. It follows therefore that Elrond Half-Elven can be considered as Aragorn's great-great....(multiply with some number more than 40) grand Uncle.
So, Arwen Undomiel is Elrond's daughter, and Aragorn's cousin. (45 to 50 minus 1 divided by 5) j/k times removed.
You see, it's more than 40 times removed because there's Elros, then Vardamir Nolimon, Tar-Amandil, Tar-Elendil, Silmarien, Valandil, etc. , Amandil, Elendil, Isildur, Valandil of Arnor, Eldacar, etc. etc. etc. (this etc. will go on for a little) , Arador, Arathorn II, then our own Aragorn.
Another one about the Ring of Barahir. Barahir is both Arwen and Aragorn's ancestor, (since Elros is Aragorn's ancestor and Elrond is Arwen's dad and Elrond and Elros are brothers and both of them are Barahir's descendants). The Ring of Barahir was given to Barahir by Finrod Felagund way back in the First Age when Barahir saved his life. This ring came down through Ages to Aragorn, who finally presents it to Arwen(upon betrothal).
Also, Imrahil is Faramir's uncle, and Faramir's wife is Eowyn who is the sister of Eomer who is the husband of Lothiriel who is the daughter of Imrahil. Eowyn is Imrahil's niece-in-law so Eomer is Imrahil's nephew-in-law too.
Therefore, Eomer is Imrahil's nephew-in-law and son-in law.
These are just a few of the genealogical wonderments in Middle-earth.
Your turn guys. Please keep it as mind-boggling as possible and not the too obvious ones.
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Last edited by shadowy_blue on Mar 16th, 2004 at 01:14 AM
ergo concordantly, vis-a-vis... wow i'm more confused now than when i first saw matrix reloaded with the freaking architect... it'll take me a few minutes to take thes all in
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s-b have you seen that movie "phenomenon"? about john travolta and how he THinks all the time, and he reads like 30 books a day and he learns 2 languages a night...and his brain can't slow down and he eventually dies because he can't stop thinking!
he's you....
j/k you wouldn't die like that but i do like this thread and i will try to be as intelectual as you guys....but i'm not to good at it...
Yeah I've seen that. But he only started acting like that because of that "light" or alien whatever thingie, and I haven't seen that yet. I don't believe though that he died because he can't stop thinking. It's just his fate that he will die of cancer or whatever it is whether he's an over-thinker or not. Otherwise, all the scientists and mathematicians and all the intellectuals today should have already died too.
LOL. I've strayed too far. Back on topic!
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Last edited by shadowy_blue on Mar 16th, 2004 at 05:13 AM
Hm, Galadriel is not only Celeborns husband, but also related to him... she is the daugther of Finarfin and Earwen, Earwen the daughter of Olwe whose brother Elmo was the father of Galadhon father of Celeborn and, yey, Celeborn's brother Galathil was the father of Nimloth who wedded Dior and is thus the mother of Elwing who was the mother of Elrond who wedded Celebrían the daughter of Celeborn
And... Boromir and Faramir have nearer connections to elves than Aragorn because their mother Finduilas was the sister of Imrahil 22nd or 21st (dunno by heart) descendant of the first Lord of Dol Amroth, Galador, whose parents were Imrazôr the Númenórean, a descendant of Elros who was halfelven... and Galadors mother was Mithrellas the silvan elf ... one of the companion maidens of Nimrodel of Lórien.
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I just nod my head and say yes. Sometimes I do that.
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Okay, sorry for the off-topic discussion, carry on, carry on.
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Dunno anybody
But at least one of his relatives must have been a Vanya... and he was lord of the house of the golden flower in gondolin, are there any other members of that house known?
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Do you know a site where they talk about like who's made of what? like Eldarion is like 50% Numenorean and 50%Elven. ?
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okay here's my attempt with less details...
Aragorn son of
Arathorn II son of
Arador son of
Argonui son of
Arathorn I son of
Arassuil son of
Arahad II son of
Aravorn son of
Aragost son of
Arahad I s.o.
Araglas so
Aragorn I so
Aravir so
Aranuir so
Arahael so
Aranarth elder son of Arvedui...
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Eeh, this is all about the genealogical connections of the characters from LOTR, The Silmarillion, etc. that we could reveal may it be from our own realizations or from the texts in the book (appendices, family tree, etc.). I was inspired by one of the threads here..LOL..
times removed. 
Mar 16th, 2004 01:08 AM
because their mother Finduilas was the sister of Imrahil 22nd or 21st (dunno by heart) descendant of the first Lord of Dol Amroth, Galador, whose parents were Imrazôr the Númenórean, a descendant of Elros who was halfelven... and Galadors mother was Mithrellas the silvan elf 
I'll just read and not post 
