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the Bodyguard

Something strange about the bodyguard? When Neo is in the matrix and looks at the code, he sees the agents as green like the rest of the matrix. I don't recall them ever showing what Neo would see trapped humans as.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: But, when Neo looks at the bodyguard, he sees him as yellow, right? Why is this and what does it signify? If the bodyguard was a program like the agents, wouldn't he also be green? We also don't know what the Oracle or other characters look like in code view do we?

Any significance to this?

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I found that strange as well. And we saw Neo himself and Trinity in code view, both being green. Very strange indeed.


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I think Neo himself looked surprised that the bodyguard did not look green.


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because he was a program not linked to the matrix? like the oracle?


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could be or maybe [SPOILER - highlight to read]: hes one of the "ones" that refuses to be replaced by the newer versions


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yes. actually a friend of mine suggested that to me. i dismissed it thinking that he'd be way to old. besides, wasn't he supposed to start zion? so why would he be here.

I just saw the first movie, and Morpheus says that the year is closer to 2199. AI was created in the early part of the 21th century. So even if we take a 200 year time span, it's still only 200/6 = about 33.33 years on average. now that's pretty feasable. Maybe we'll find out what Saraph is all about in the next movie.


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I assume the Oracle and Architect both appear yellow, they just never show it.


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yeah I would agree with that Tex.


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i know he's gonna be in the next movie. i've seen him roundhouse someone.

remember when we were all watching the attack of the clones previews, and as soon as we saw Anakin wielding two lightsabers we were like: whoa! there's TWO of them!

Saraph is gonna be wielding dual berrettas. That's gonna be awesome


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My friends and I were going over the movie after we had watched last weekend and came up with this hypothesis:

Maybe the bodyguard is:a, a Firewall, set in place for the protection of the matrix, or
b: A Virus scan. The virus scan seems a lot more plasable because in order to figure out if those wanting to see the Oracle are viruses or not, he'd have to fight them(i.e. the Teahouse fight scene).


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I Think Seraph is "written" in another programmspeach or something. HeŽs different to the agents. for instance is he fighting much better. But like Tevesh i think weŽll find out a lot more aout him in the next movie. In some trailers you can see him fighting (and shooting) some guys with morpheus and trinity. weŽll see.


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Perhaps because he was a different program altogether, he was not linked to the matrix and he was not part of his operating systems, he might have been someone created by the oracle


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all the characters on Matrix that dressed in White were roghe or rude dodnt u noticed that.
Switch- she was rude
Twins- i hate them
persephone- shes got it very deep hiding something
architect-hmm?? we have to analize him
Seraph- hes very convincent
Who else???????

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HEY???

quote:
Originally posted by Tevesh
yes. actually a friend of mine suggested that to me. i dismissed it thinking that he'd be way to old. besides, wasn't he supposed to start zion? so why would he be here.

I just saw the first movie, and Morpheus says that the year is closer to 2199. AI was created in the early part of the 21th century. So even if we take a 200 year time span, it's still only 200/6 = about 33.33 years on average. now that's pretty feasable. Maybe we'll find out what Saraph is all about in the next movie.


33 years.... that was Jesus age. So every 33 years the one died and resurrect agin and again. But EVERY 33 years.

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Doesn't make sense. The One picks 23 people. Zion has 250.000 (if I'm correct) inhabitants. They're not rabbits you know....

[edit - hold on: they also free people. But i still think 33 years is far too short, the old One would still be there... Hm.]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tex
I assume the Oracle and Architect both appear yellow, they just never show it.


Dunno. Neo looked surprised.

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[edit - hold on: they also free people. But i still think 33 years is far too short, the old One would still be there... Hm.]

Anyone else think that Merivinginian is an ex-ONE?

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yes..i beleive both the merovingian and the seraph are former ones.


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we know that the french guy is not a former one. he says himself, "Listen up boy, I have survived your predacessors and I will survive you as well."

did he survive himself? of course not. He is a traffiker of information. Persephone wants to feel loved again like she used to. That's why she goes around asking for a kiss from everyone she meets, including Ghost and Niobe. (great scenes from the game)

Saraph might be a former one, but I severely doubt it. As far as we know, all 5 previous ones have been taken to the source where their code that makes them "the one" has been deleted (no humans actually carry and code, but whatever part of their mind that lets them do the wacky things they do, when plugged into the matrix, converted into code is removed), and they are lead to be free in Zion with 23 others.
They are known to be the "first" person to escape the matrix. Morpheus refers to the "first" as well. When Neo discovers that he is in fact that sixth, he says himself, "Either no one knows, or no one told him."

The people who knew (Oracle, french dude, persephone) didn't tell him. (french guy hinted at it, but didn't blatantly say it)

Morpheus, Trinity and all others part of Zion didn't know, which leads me to believe that the former "one" did not know as well, otherwise they would all know that the cycle has been repeating. Neo is the first to know of this cycle.


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oh. guys. as for the 33 years, i think i am mistaken on that. Morpheus said it was 2199 (give or take, remember they don't know for sure) giving them about 200 years between when the matrix was installed and up and running. BUT, they don't know that the cycle has repeated itself 6 times over now. so i am thinking now that every cycle is 200 years. As i posted right before, people don't know about the cycles, if they did, Neo would have.


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