Assuming Neo is the sixth anomoly, what drives him to be different from the others? There is something though, in response to the architect's first question, the architect says "that was quicker than the others". Later when he makes his choice between left and right Neo prsumably makes a choice different from the other anomolies - love, and the others had a more general response.
Also the Merovingian says "I have survived your predecessors and I will survive you", but he was surprised when Neo stopped his henchmen's bullets.
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the 'mother of the matrix' as the archictect put it was the oracle. there is a lot of question as to whether he was lying, we really dont know.
and i think that his reaction was different to the previous peoples reactions, i think the other six chose to save zion, not their trinity. i dont know exactly, wait til raz or yersott or dexx or someone answer. they seem to know an awful lot or alternatively you could just wait til revolutions.
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Neo is definately different than the others as it is pointed out by:
The Architect (Which you have already mentioned)
The Merovingian:
You're predescessors had much more respect &
Ooookay the boy has some skill (with an expression on his face as if he has never seen it happen before) EDIT: I just noticed you already said this after I typed it.
The Oracle:
You have made a believer out of me kiddo.
I know the only way to get there is together - which leads onto what I think the Oracle is doing
I think she used to be a bad *****...basically creating the Prophecy etc. But now I think she has turned exile just like the Keymaker etc. I believe this because:
a: When Neo, at the beginning of the film, does his Superman thing. He is visiting where the Oracle used to be (in the first film). But he then say's "Where are you?". Why wouldn't she be there if she is the Mother of the Matrix?
b: Why does she need a Guardian? (Seraph)
c: Why is she in a park in what seemingly looks like in the middle of a cheap area of the city. If you notice Seraph is keenly looking about the environment looking for danger. Then he knows Smith will appear so takes her away from danger
Neo is different from the previous ones as he has love, love for Trinity that is. Hence he chose not to reload the Matrix, a choice that no other one had made before.
I think love has quite a big theme to play in the Matrix, surely it's an emotion completely unknown to programs, which is why smith is so unique, he has hate, he is Neo's alter ego. Smith is as important as Neo i'm sure, they are different sides of the same coin...
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As for the Oracle, I still think she's working for the Matrix, why else does she eat a red tracer pill (the candy she offers to Neo) before departing just before Smith finds them, coincedence?
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BTW, there was never any idea that the Architect said the Oracle was the mother but might be lying. The Architect did NOT identify the Mother; he seemed to scoff at Neo's idea that it was the Oracle and the question ois over whether that means she is or is not.
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as neo talked to the oracle, he told her that he saw that door, made of light in his dreams. it is the door that he will pass later when he comes to the architect.
Then the oracle ask him what he sees after passing the door and he told her that he would see trinity. This is what he will do after the conversation with the architect. So the oracle know what he will do after meeting the architect. finally, before the oracle and seraph leave, she told neo that now, after their conversation she believes in him (sifer wrote this before) and it´s because she know that neo (as the real one) will not save zion. not yet.
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Ushgarak I thought the same thing at first. But after watching the film about 10 times I feel the way he says it is simply mocking in a sense. Watch it a couple more times, you will know what I mean. I can't actually think of the word at the minute cause I have been awake for nearly 48 hours straight...LOL
when i first saw it i definetely thought the architect meant the oricle was the mother of the matrix, but gowing back for a second time i paid special attention to that part (as well as many other) and the architect does seem very harsh to the though of her being the mother.
back to the thread topic, it is not only love that makes him different, but it is also the link he has to a program which i assume no other versions of the one had. what i mean is that him and Smith are connected, which wasnt present in the other versions.
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It's like hamman says, we need machines and they need us. You can't have one without the other. I don't think we'll see the end of either in M3. Maybe something new, Smith holds the key...
Maybe Neo and Smith have a baby together..... er, sorry. : )
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The previous Ones were most likely different from Neo, that is, they didn’t look like him, and didn’t have the same thoughts emotions etc. And they were YOUNGER.
In M1 we learn that Neo is actually too old to be unplugged, but Morpheus does so regardless.
And I agree with those who thinks the Oracle is a “good guy”. She’s on the run and has many enemies, it didn’t seem that way in M1. And to me it still looks as if the Architect scoffs at the name humans have given the mother of the Matrix.
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oh. sorry. well i only saw it once.
oh was that a tracer pill she ate? i thought it was just candy.
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Well, it may have been just candy, but it did look exactly like a red pill, I don't think the brothers would have had it that way without some significance.
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Nope the mother of the matrix is not the Mother...the Architect laughed when Neo said it was her...She is the chick that Neo kissed...The Merovingian Wife...As far as his predessors choosing to reload the matrix..there's no proof that they made that choice...they could have chosen the same part as Neo and just failed cause they didn't have the skills he possess...the matrix would have still reloaded...u can't trust every and any word that came out of the architect...rem he is evil and tries to control Neo's progress...trickster like...
Love blinds all logic, what the architect has feared, thus this matrix will take a path that has never been trodden before, and maybe Neo's coma is him actually Neo evolving into something more. Or he has not left the matrix yet and is trapped in another reality and it is up to the remainder of the crew to save him.
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im sure you are right. but maybe the architect was scoffing cos it was obvious. i dont know. i cant remember.
but why is everyone saying its persephone? why would they think that (again, not disputing it. just wondering.)
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How is Neo different from his predecessors?
Jun 12th, 2003 04:51 AM
or alternatively you could just wait til revolutions.
