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zombieman
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Voldemort and Harry both die?
I think a lot of people on here are confused, I keep reading posts saying things like 'If Voldemort dies Harry will die too'. JK has never mentioned this, she has simply said that one must die at the hands of the other. There is nothing in any of the books to suggest that Harry will die when Voldemort does becuase he has some of his power.
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Jun 4th, 2004 12:01 PM |
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Agent Elrond
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actually, I read that they both may die in the 7th book. Nothing offical, but it does make sense. Both are linked to each other and by removing one of them, the other will die too. Kinda of like Neo and Smith
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Jun 4th, 2004 02:07 PM |
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zombieman
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Why will they both die because of their link to each other? Harry had some of Voldemorts powers transfered to him but he was alive before they were there and they are not essential to his survival. Voldemort has a small amount of Harry's blood which was drained from his body, I don't see why Harry would die just because someone who has his blood has died.
I do think its likely that Harry may die along with Voldemort but not because of a connection they share. I think it is more likely that Harry will die as a result of injuries sustained in the final battle with Voldemort, he will die a hero.
I think she will try to make Harry's death as positive and happy as possible stressing the fact that Harry is now happy because he is with his parents and Sirius in the afterlife.
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Jun 4th, 2004 02:46 PM |
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its_magic
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i still reckon having dumbledor die would be good to the story cause everyone relys on him to save the day if harry cant and now that everyone gets a taste of his power in the fifth book there will be a battle beetween the too and one will die probaly dumbledore
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Jun 4th, 2004 02:52 PM |
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Linkalicious
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Of course nothing official has been published yet, because no one knows what will happen other than JK Rowling. She's done an excellent job keeping her secrects in the past, and I see no reason why the same wouldn't hold true in the future.
I gotta disagree with your reasoning when you compare Harry and Voldemort to Neo and Smith.
Neo, as the anomaly, is supposed to represent the decision we can't see past. Though he actually is a human, he is similar to a program because he has a purpose. Neo's purpose was to end the war between the machines and man, his purpose was not to defeat Smith.
Smith, was "unplugged" because he, much like Neo, was an anomoly and he too had a purpose. Since Neo represents an imbalance in the equation, the Architect (or whoever) had to create Smith in order to balance the equation. Smith's soul purpose was to defeat Neo so this equation could be balanced once again. As explained in the begining of Revolutions by the Indian dude at the train station....EVERY PROGRAM SERVES A PURPOSE, THOSE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE SERVED THEIR PURPOSE AS TERMINATED.
That means that once Smith served his purpose by defeating Neo, he then was eliminated because that is how he was programmed. You may not know this, but Neo realized that he couldn't actually defeat Smith, but he could eliminate Smith by being defeated by Smith.
Hard to follow...sorry, but that's MY take on the Matrix.
Harry Potter is indeed THE ONE, to some extent, but neither him nor Voldemorte are programs so one won't automatically die once the other is defeated. If you were to look at it from a Matrix perspective, one would have to conclude that Harry would be filling the role of Smith instead of Neo, because it seems his purpose is to defeat the Dark Lord.
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Jun 4th, 2004 03:21 PM |
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danielfan_04
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 i don't believe it
i don't believe wat ur saying cos harry is the main character and if he dies the whole think will be ruined so there and whoever said that is telling the biggest pack of lies i have ever heard
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Jun 5th, 2004 11:01 AM |
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The Inkeeper
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because this is what happenes
harry and hermione are going to use the portkey
hermione uses it and goes
but voldy apparates
voldy and harry are fighting
harry starts to lose
harry runs
harry runs round a corner
voldy does the death curse
harry dies
harry comes back to life
harry is the one
he sees things in co....i mean clearly without his glassess
he jumps through voldy
destroys him
and the death eaters run 
but there will be a harry 8 and nine where voldy comes back 'free' from azkaban i think.
and he can do a multiplying spell
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Jun 5th, 2004 11:20 AM |
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its_magic
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well u really thought that through didnt ya lol 
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Jun 5th, 2004 02:40 PM |
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ladygrim
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i hope they do die toghether ... kinda good cuz harry always survives ...  and the bad guys all ways lose out
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:37 PM |
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The Inkeeper
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i did indeed its (a kind of) magic 
all my own thoughts, not the ending to matrix one at all
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:39 PM |
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*raises hand*
One question, Mr Lordy- how exactly does Harry come back to life?
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:42 PM |
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ladygrim
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by magic obviously...
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:44 PM |
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ladygrim
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they could us the time turner that they used in 3 to go bak and worn harry that vodlys round the corner
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:45 PM |
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The Inkeeper
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because he is the one!
thats because earlier he goes to dumbledore who says he isnt the one, maybe in his next life
then he dies, and comes back because it is his destiny and he is the one 
its either that or voldy tels harry he is his dad after cutting his hand off. then takes him to his evil master saldermon which is me in a voldy costume. who says 'strike me down' alot---and laughs while hermione and ron try to destoy my death sta.....house. but then nevill, ginny and colin go to the forest planet and destroy the station with the help of hufflepuff who overthrow the stor...slytherins.
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:49 PM |
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ladygrim
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lol very funny
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:50 PM |
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The Inkeeper
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its true!
just you wait till book seven
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:52 PM |
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ladygrim
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to long to wait the ruddy movies would be out be4 she wrote them
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Jun 5th, 2004 03:54 PM |
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cloud23hermione
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hey in the forum. . . dont ever send a message that Ron would die. . . she will leave for hermione in the story. . . plzzzzzzzzzz . . . dont ever mess with ron. ..
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Jun 6th, 2004 08:20 AM |
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The Inkeeper
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oh yeah
i heard ron will be killed.
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Jun 6th, 2004 10:30 AM |
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its_magic
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yeah and hermione dies to but wait why stop there why dont we kill the whole cast except snape cause he is a nob and that would pee alot of people off better still lest just make shaw that colin creevy dies cause he is realy stupid lol jks
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