I just wanted to say hi and let you guys know that i'm the guy that the Doc Ock costume was developed around. It was a 6 month process where I was fitted with prototypes and then these prototypes were tested with 4-12 puppeteers at a time. If you've seen the footage floating around the net of the guy in the costume in a dark room ...then you've seen me.
Anyways, just wanted to say hello and if anyone has any questions or anything, don't hesitate to email me at: [email protected]
I can tell you all about the prototype costume...I can answer any questions as in...where we did the prototype tests...what the tentacles are made of...how they made them...the problems we had with the prototype and also with the actual suit during shooting....so yes...I can prove it.
lol...ok...all you little spider geeks...No I'm not a fake and no I'm not a loser...I was the stand-in for the developement of the doc ock costume...believe what you want. I haven't responded earlier because I actually work a lot in tv and film and I rarely get on msg boards. I thought it would be cool to share my experiences with anyone interested and what do I get...people that call me a fake and don't believe. Whatever...
Tell you what...I'll be selling the program book for the first meeting we had with Sam, for the different concepts of the claws and tentacles, etc. on ebay the week before the movie comes out. So, for all you non believers...be watching and bid if you'd like...or not, I really don't care.
If you a real Spider-man employee of any kind, you WOULD NOT insult fans of Spider-Man, on a Spider-Man Movie discussion forum, because some people called you a fake, because you didn't prove any evidence. Evidence does not consist of "I am, so there".
And how do we know your not just some fan whos selling some random program from a meeting? Words simply aren't good enough. You expect people to just believe? Get real.
Seriously - I may have believed you, if you didn't act and type like a 13 year old loser, sat at his dads computer, getting kicks out of putting up bogus BS on a forum. These are internet boards genius, people are allowed to be skeptical after all the crap that gets thrown around.
If you are some kid (you may not - prove me wrong otherwise) then I hope you at least have the decency to F*** OFF!
Take it easy Red SuperFly!!
I believe him.
Did you work with Tobey? did you meet Alferd? what were the tentacles made of? what is that scene about were Doc. Ock throws the taxi through the cafe' window to get Peters attention?
I'll simply ignore all the previous punches...except to say...I'm not a spiderman groupy as some of you are...which is fine if you are...I worked on the film...I work on many films, not because I'm into them, but because that's what I do. My only intention of ever posting here was to relay my experiences to anyone interested in hearing about them because I figured it would be pretty cool if someone did that for me. But naturally, there are always skeptics and that's fine...I really don't care. So to those skeptics, I simply say...don't read what I write. Now wasn't that easy. And as far as, "And how do we know your not just some fan whos selling some random program from a meeting?" I ask the question...how exactly would a Spiderman fan get a hold of one of only 15 copies of a program that was held exclusively on Sony's studio in Culver City? And to you SUPERFLY, I could give a shit less what you think and if you think I have something to prove to you...then you're dreaming in Spidey land...to the others of you...congratulations at not hating the world and being a negative person even when the truth is clearly in front of you...and that's ALL I have to say about these matters....now, if you'll read my earlier posts...I was involved in the pre-production process of the film...meaning, months before any of the filming began, the suit, which is soooo complex had to be developed and basicallly, just had to be figured out how the hell to do it. We started with 4 puppeteers and me wearing an ordinary black back brace with 4 long foam tentacles glued to the back of them...rods where attached to each tentacle and we basically went through the movements of fighting...walking, crouching, sitting...etc, to see what worked and what didn't. Improvements were made along the way...I took a beating at times, but it was all cool...so what did they end up making the tentacles out of? Well, they tried different things...aluminum was an option but they ended up making the tentacle out of liquid foam. Molds were made and the foam was poured in and would cure after a short time...these were all painstackingly assembled. To complicate things, there were different size segments made..so it was like a jigsaw puzzle. Plus, there were lots of cables that had to go through the middle of each tentacle which added alot of weight. The puppeteers ended up having to rig a complex system of weights and booms to lift the tentacles during filming. And another problem...these wires inside the tentacles..with each movement...they worked as a saw against the foam segments...meaning, they would eventually saw through the links and they would have to be replaced.
So...oh, one more thing...the pre-production I was involved with was done at EdgeFX which is in Burbank, CA on Flower St. Lyle Conway was originally in charge of the development, he created Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors and also created THE BLOB. He was also in Blade, at the end when all the elders are in a circle...he's the one that talks to the bad guy...he has a white beard. Anyway, he was fired after a while..totally political...that happens a lot in this business, unfortunatley.
So that's enough rambling for now...feel free to bash away....
No, I don't want to bash you. I'm not sure I believe you, but you sure sound convincing .
But even when you would turn out a fake - which I doubt a bit, but maybe I'm too naive - there's no need for the other members of this forum to act impolite.
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
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