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Angelus
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Oz
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Anakin in Ep 1....naughty or nice
Just be interested to hear what everyone thinks about this...
The first few times I watched Ep 1 I liked everyone, including Jar Jar and Anakin....but I found that as I watched it more Anakin really started to get on my nerves....
At the time I put it down to the fact that I didn't like Jake Lloyds acting style, or that maybe his lines were too corny, but after watching the dvd again this weekend i've changed my mind,....
Maybe the reason anakin bugs me, and so many star wars fans, is that we aren't really meant to like him....
Sure he might seem a nice enough kid and his mum says he gives without any thought of reward, etc,etc....but there is a far less likeable side to his character...
He is arrogant....always trying to prove himself better than those around him....my pod is better.....my driving skills are better....etc,etc,etc.... He is far from the selfless, humble jedi image that we might see in Qui Gon, or Obi Wan...
Maybe we are bugged by him, because it is natural to be bugged by anyone that talks themselves up just a bit too much?
Sure he is only a kid, and sure we feel sorry for him that he leaves his mum....but does this change anything?
What do people think?
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Oct 28th, 2001 12:48 AM |
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Brith
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: United Kingdom
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This is an interesting point of view for me as I've always felt that Anakin was too nice and that should be more of an edge to him.
His arrogance is a fair point but I thought it was just part of a kind of rogue-like charm of his - much like Han from the original three. Mind you, I never thought it came off as well as it did on Han..
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Oct 28th, 2001 01:08 AM |
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Angelus
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Oz
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I think you are right that he can come across as too nice at times, but it is pretty selective. He respects the jedi, and is good to his mother... Like Palpatine, his overconfidence is his weakness. He throws himself recklessly into situations eg pod racing, fight with sebulba, and the space battle at the end....Whilst we accept this because he is fighting the good fight, how much of it is a desire to be the hero....sure his motives are good now, so him being the hero is fine, but what will happen in Ep2 when those motives start to stray.
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Oct 28th, 2001 05:51 AM |
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KJ
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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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I agree with both of you. There was a lot more to Anakin in TPM than just "a good kid". He was always trying to prove himself to everyone and was really cocky. But in TPM like Qui-Gon said "he gives without any thought of reward". But how long will that last?
In the next two films he is going to try and prove himself even more and when he isn't rewarded your going to see how he's changed, for the worst.
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Oct 28th, 2001 03:43 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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He's the typical brash kid- worse, a brash kid who really IS talented. He'd probably wind me up in real life as well, but it;s difficult to hate him in the end
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Oct 28th, 2001 03:46 PM |
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ToMacco
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: A bar in Minnesota
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He's very agressive.
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Oct 30th, 2001 05:38 AM |
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Tex
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
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You people are all bonkers! Anakin is a darling angle in EP1. Stopping to talk to that old wrinkled prune, letting strangers into his decrepid hut, and putting his life on the line many times to help the Jedi. Then on the DVD outakes, it shows his saying bye to that dried up witch looking old woman. He's a nice kid, and JL acting wasn't good enough to give me the impression that he has theis deep evil side 
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Oct 30th, 2001 03:54 PM |
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KJ
Sausages
Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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No one is sating he did. Of course he was a good kid. Which is what he was meant to be.
What we were saying is that he is TOO nice and TOO eager. In TPM he doesn't expect any reward for this but when he's older he will.
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Oct 30th, 2001 05:06 PM |
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Tex
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
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He just needs a good hard spanking 
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Oct 30th, 2001 09:40 PM |
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finti
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location:
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are you an angel man that Lloyd dude annoyed almost as much as Goofy(Jar Jar)
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Oct 30th, 2001 09:57 PM |
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Tex
Yumsz
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
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me too!!! and that 'but I', to QuiGon, really annoying
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Oct 30th, 2001 10:01 PM |
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finti
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location:
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As for the topic Anakin was nice, just the perfect little lad.
Why'? Cause Jack`o `boy dont have the ability to act otherwise
"This is tense" blahhhhhh
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Oct 31st, 2001 07:46 AM |
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KJ
Sausages
Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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I feel sorry for you guys. 
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Oct 31st, 2001 06:25 PM |
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finti
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location:
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Why cause we can spot a lousy actor?
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Oct 31st, 2001 07:07 PM |
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KJ
Sausages
Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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No. Because you feel the need to constantly criticise a 9 year old boy.
And if it's not that then you are slating a CGI comic character. Something that doesn't even exist.
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Oct 31st, 2001 07:38 PM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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Hey, he's an actor, he stepped up on the plate; he's as valid a target for criticism as any public figure.
Not that *I* criticise him, but nor would I shield him from it.
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Oct 31st, 2001 07:59 PM |
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Tex
Yumsz
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
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GL should of picked that scruffy looking Luke Skywalker look alike kid, as seen on the DVD. Or anyone else for that matter!
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Oct 31st, 2001 08:21 PM |
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mah
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Florø, Norway
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that's bull. lloyd is a perfectly good actor. i've not seen any better than him in USA(other than osment), and he did a good job in TPM, he did just what he was ment to do.
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Oct 31st, 2001 09:04 PM |
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Tex
Yumsz
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
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Pinocchio wouldn't have been half as wooden as JL, if he had gotten the part
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Oct 31st, 2001 09:44 PM |
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Ratcat
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Registered: Jul 2000
Location:
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This is supposed to be about the character, NOT the actor. If this is just gonna turn into a Jake Lloyd bashing session then it can be closed down. 
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Oct 31st, 2001 10:36 PM |
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