Why do people still have this notion that Batman doesn't kill.
Batman's been killing henchmen left and right, and nobody says anything about until he kills the main villian. Then the debates starts on his intentions. Why is that? Batman does kill. I know alot of people don't want to admit that, still holding on the mythos of the comic books, but Batman's been killing. sometimes to save lives u have to take a life.....he should only kill when he has to, and in the movies and some graphic novels ive seen, he does just that. but i hate hearing ppl ***** and moan about how batman doesnt kill. he has, and he does at times.
Last edited by Batman Returns on Jan 29th, 2006 at 12:57 AM
He has before, but when was the last time youve seen him outright kill someone? Sure make them paralyzed, break lots of bones, cause lots of pain, take them out of a fight with pressure points, or any gadget he has on his person, but kill them? Not any that I can think of.
Well Batman didn't kill the Joker...He tried to stop him from getting away...pity accident lol...End yeah altho Batman in BB didn't kill Ra's Al Ghul directly...he is responsible for his death. So both are killers in both films...
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Batman's like any other superhero. He wishes not to have to kill anyone and he tries his very best not to, but there are times when he simply must. Every superhero if they've had enough stories have killed at least 3 people - and yes aliens count as a kill, so you can't say Superman hasn't when he's killed various aliens, or something along that path.
he's just very good at making sure those who he hurts doesn't die directly from it
cept when he threw coins in the air for Two-Face to grab in BForever...and then watched him plummet to his death. How's that for "not saving you, but not killing you either"?
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Well, I reckon Batman doesn't kill in comics except in circumsatnces where it's the only way to save millions and even then, he'll try not to and it's usually an accident! That's why I didn't like DKR, it made Bruce too harsh. He killed loads of those mutants, full on murdered Joker, crippled guys with no remorse or anything and he was an old git! Miller should be arrested and why the hell was Bruce always strolling around naked in froont of Carrie? He's a god damn paedo in ity! And I hate the way he messes everything up, he's a good guy and Clark's a good guy, they aren't a rivalry of savage torturing vigilante murderer and government assasin! For god's sake...
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I can't think of many instances when Batman has actually been malicious enough to try and kill a main villain fully, except in Hush Vol 2 when Gordon had to actually hold him at gunpoint to stop him from crushing Joker's windpipe.
He only intended paralysis to the Joker in DKR, but Joker took it a bit too far. And true, he did kill a great deal of mutants... but even so.
He killed a great number of people in Bloodtsorm and Crimson Mist. Including Poison Ivy and The Joker. Oh, and Mr Zsasz, Penguin, many thugs, and Killer Croc.
DKR isn't continuity. The Batman movies aren't continuity. The vampire stuff certainly isn't continuity. I have no idea what the OPer is talking about.
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True.I have never said that he doesnt kill.He did carry a gun in the beggining of the batman comics and shot and killed people but it was only during times that like you said,it was because he simply had to and there was no other way.The batman from the comics would have done something like have the batmobile go into the jokers warehouse and spray a knockout gas on all the thugs instead of killing them in the cowardly way he did when his life wasnt even in danger.That kind of thing or like putting a bomb in that guys pants in batman returns is something the punisher would do.The first two batman movies were much more like a punisher movie than a batman movie.The punisher would not care about killing a dirty thug in a cowardly way like batman did,batman only kills if he has to and there is no other way.He hates to do it.
Yeah I hate it when the burton batman lovers always come back with that lame come back that he killed in Batman Begins by saying he killed Ra's Al Ghul by not saving him on that train.Going around sending a batmobile into a warehouse dropping a bomb in front of a bunch of goons is just plain murder,the batmobile is bulletproof and his life was never in danger at that time and yet he goes and kills them.HUGE difference there than when he says to ra' al goul- I'm not going to kill you but I dont have to save you either.Not saving his mentor doesnt qualify as killing someone.
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He says "I'm no excutioner" just before he blows up the monastery at the start ut he only blows it as a distraction bbut it gets out of control... and he didn't kill the Ra's decoy, burning rubble fell on him. That's why all 4 opening Bat flicks are shat!
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