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BackFire
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Nightmare on Elmstreet
discuss the great horror series which gave johnny depp a start and made robert englund, a friendly look older man, into a horror king. ive heard that the next nightmare probably wont have robert englund as freddy, what do you think about this?
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There will never be a Nightmare movie without Englund..........they just won't do it.............if Robert decides to hang up the hat and glove after this movie, it's all over with...............he did however say that although he is planning this as his last time playing Freddy, if the movie does well and the fans are still there he would consider coming back and making another film.
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kruegerKid
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I believe he is the king of horror. Not only is he scary, but he's funny in a morbid kind of way. Unlike most other "kings of horror" he actually talks, which I believe makes the movie more interesting. I've been obsessed with NOES since I was like 5. I own all the movies and watch most of them constantly, with the exception of NOES 2 and 5. I'm glad after about ten years they finally made Freddy Vs. Jason, it is about time for a comeback.
Also Backfire I agree with Evil Dead. Robert Englund stated way back that he didn't want to play Freddy any longer because he was starting to pick up some characteristics of him, but when the chance arose once again he took the role because without Robert, there is no Freddy. If he refuses any future roles as Freddy, thats it for NOES, New Line would be stupid to let anyone else play Krueger.
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Jul 8th, 2003 07:29 PM |
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TedO
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But of course they WOULD let somebody else play him, simply because it's all in the pursue of the buck. Simply put, though, I would not go see a NOES movie without Englund.
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Jul 8th, 2003 07:44 PM |
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Evil Dead
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I liked Krueger better in NOES 1 and 2 when he didn't talk.......he was scarier.............I remember watching NOES 1 when it first hit video when I was 6 years old........it scared the shit out of me..........by the time NOES 3 came along, I actually went to the theatre to see it with my older sisters.......it didn't scare me.........creeped me a little......but didn't scare me............they had Freddy too well lit.......alot of the mystery was gone...........it didn't even scare me as a 10 year old child watching it on the big screen.........I believe Wes Craven took all this into considration when writing New Nightmare...........he wanted to make it scarier again.......darker.......he also mentions this in the movie when they are talking about how "watered down" the character has become......
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Jul 8th, 2003 07:47 PM |
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kruegerKid
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Thats what Wes thought the general audience was thinking which was probally true, but us committed Freddy fans would never believe he was watered down. Oh and by the way dont compare the other NOES' to NOES 2 because Wes didn't even write or direct it, matter of fact he stated that he wanted nothing to do with NOES 2.
Also he was a little darker in the first one not just because he talked a little less it was because he was a new face to us. In the movies to follow he was still scary its just that we began to see how he acted and thought, this helped us to sometimes predict what was to happen.
In my opinion it was a good thing he started talking more, as I stated in an earlier post, he still managed to creep you out by being funny in a morbid way. The speech made the movie more interesting, if he didnt talk it would be like watching another Jason or Micheal Myers movie, Wes tried to be original with the character.
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Jul 8th, 2003 07:59 PM |
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Evil Dead
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Read my reply in the Freddy v/s Jason other possible crossovers thread...........it applies here too........
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Jul 8th, 2003 08:05 PM |
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BackFire
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i saw these movies when i was young and they never bothered me. i thought they were cheesy and funny. however the first one does contain a great scene, the scene when the blond girl is being killed in her sleep and being dragged up the walls and on the ceiling. brilliant. but for some reason i never thought freddy was scary. he was to playful and likeable to me.
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Jul 9th, 2003 12:45 AM |
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If you watched the original Nightmare on Elm Street and thought Freddy Krueger was playfull and likeable, you my friend are one warped human being...........................I hope for the world's sake that you are talking about parts 3-6 when you talk about Freddy being playfull in "those movies"..................
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Jul 9th, 2003 02:12 AM |
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BackFire
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well i guess im warped, cuz im talking about the first one. wasnt scared one bit.
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Jul 9th, 2003 02:33 AM |
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Evil Dead
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You didn't say "wasn't scared"...........you said that you thought Freddy was playfull and likeable in the first movie..............which is just insane........okay, you weren't scared.....alot of people weren't, it's just a movie..........but to say Freddy was likeable and playfull? Which part gave you this impression? When he was thrashing Tina all over her mother's bedroom then killed her while Rod watched........or when he sucked Glenn down into his bed and sprayed blood everywhere?
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Jul 9th, 2003 11:52 AM |
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BackFire
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he was. he was funny. that scene with the blood squirting out of the bed is hilarious. no human has that much blood in them.
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kruegerKid
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I'm a big NOES fan and I agree with Backfire. I mean no disrespect by it however. I agree with Evil in some sense. Krueger became MORE "playful and likeable in the later movies TRUE, BUT... he was still that way from the beginning. Being playful and likeable doesn't make it a bad movie though so I don't understand what the problem is. Some people say he isn't scary because of this, I think it makes him scarier because it shows just how twisted he is, that is, he makes a game out of everything even people's deaths.
The sad thing is other that horror characters are not playful or likeable and they're still not scary, thats sad. That shows how much better Freddy is then them (Them refers to Jason, Mike Myers and similar types).
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Jul 10th, 2003 07:32 PM |
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TedO
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He was a llittle playful in the first movies, just not verbally. If he wasn't playful, he would have just slashed somebody instead of making them suffer, enjoying it. Like, he would have just dug his claws through the boyfriend on teh bed instead of yanking him in. And he would have just outright killed the friend instead of dragging her around on the walls/ceiling.
In the sequels, he just made it verbal.
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Jul 10th, 2003 07:38 PM |
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kruegerKid
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Exactly Tedo, I guess only us NOES fans get it.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:31 PM |
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TedO
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Yeah, I guess comon sense only runs in us 
Just kiddin, all, just kiddin.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:34 PM |
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BackFire
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i never meant it as a insult to freddy. he's still great. like you've all said many times, his whole draw is that he has a great personality while he's commiting these horrible acts.
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Jul 11th, 2003 12:37 AM |
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kruegerKid
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Ok BF, we're just making sure eeveryone gets what were saying because we explain something about him, then someone comes in here questioning what we just explained, so you have to undersatnd where we are coming from.
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Freddy movies are great.. but they just arn't scarey to me.. even if i watch em right b4 i go to bed, in the dark, alone.. just doesn't do it for me..
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I love the NOES movies, I remember the first time I watched the 1st NOES, it freaked me out (I was 6). But afterwards I started liking them, they were cool. An' there is no way I would want someone new to play Freddy.
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