i want you all to give me some good reasons why rap is "bad" or "sucks".
and dont tell me about all these clowns on TV and the radio who talked about money,drugs,and bitches.i'm talking about real artists like mf doom,qwel,sage francis,slug(sean loves ugly girls),aesop rock,common sense,diverse,brother ali,pip skid,fermented reptile,j-live,madlib,ect
when you can tell me why those people are "bad",or "suck,then i'll listen
it's so easy to talk shit about all these suckas u see on TV because they're jokes and are entertainers more than they are hip-hop artists.dont let them ruin it for the truly talented artists who should represent hip-hop,and not eminem,cash money,ect.
i guarantee that nobody in any other genre of music can come close to being the writers that sage francis,aesop rock,and so many others are.
listen to the people who actually have talent before you dismiss the whole genre
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John Smith, it's funny, I don't like the mainstream rap I see and hear, but I've heard other rap and hip-hop, and wow! some of those guys have got talent. the problem is both sides for the most part are ignorant, people need to realize it's not the genres that suck, it's certain bands of that genre. Most music on the radio does suck. some people have no idea what music is out there.
I don't like most of the rap I have heard, but I haven't heard a lot of underground, I am not going to say rap in general sucks, but the rap that is popular requires little talent.
I don't know anyone who is talented in music who likes main-stream rap. but I do not some talented writers and singers who like hip-hop. I don't know the diff. between the two, but they tell me hip-hop takes talent and rap doesn't.
thanks for posting the facts rather than a bunch of mindless bashing of other music, because of that, I'll consider giving some of those bands a shot.
BUT I know metal bands that are extremely good writers. and i think it is unfair to say that other bands couldn't be better writers.
pretty much everybody u see on tv and hear on the radio are just gimmicks
of course they have no talent,because their music is geared towards 10-15 year old(mostly girls) who buy the most music.so commercial music today is a complete joke.
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i didnt mean any disrespect what so ever by saying that they are better writers.i didnt mean that writers in other genre's arent talented or as talented writers.i personally just feel that hip-hop writers are better.check out people like sage francis and aesop rock to see what i'm talkin about.there are great writers in pretty much every genre, i just feel that CERTAIN(def not all) hip hop mc's cannot be surpassed when it comes to writing.it really is poetry.to the point where magazines like "the source" say that sage and others arent mc's because they're into art.which i think is stupid.
i'm sure there are great writers in metal in other genre's.so i'm not trying to disrespect.
i just want people to hear hip hop artists who actually have talent before they dismiss the genre as a whole as so MANY people here at this board do.just because they hear that crap on the radio,doesnt mean all hip hop is like that.and there are so many haters here.people who havent even heard real hip hop.hip hop artists that put love,passion, and the art before money and marketing.
i would respect your opinion if you heard the people who truly represent hiphop and u still didnt like it...
but don't talk sh*t if you havent even heard hip-hop.and once again,that crap on tv and the radio is not hip hop.
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your right, this board needs more open minded people. The world needs more open minded people, being open minded doesn't mean accepting everything, it just means giving everything a fair chance. People do not seem to get that.
i gotta go attend to my aesop rock scrapbook....peacizzles
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Stephen, I think I know what your talkin about. Are you reffering to the "rap is crap" thread? go back and read what I said, everytime i said rap I meant mainstream rap, I even said that hip-hop requires talent, and some rap does too im sure, I'm sorry for confusing anyone. MAINSTREAM RAP is CRAP.
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well they got a bad voice(most of them), the melodi sucks, no guitar solo play, do I need too say more?, take forexample a 80's rock band, like Europe, they are 100000000000000000000000000000000 times better in all ways! END OF STORY
I wud first like to point out that I'm not a rap/hip hop fan. But after reading this thread it seems that this genre is very like rock music (which is what I'm into). The acts who get into the charts and are therefore most well-known to the general public mainly have little talent, are controlled by thier managment like puppets, or sing about a stupid subject, like drugs and bitches. Since these artists are the most well-known, they often send out an image of the whole genre being like that. EG, rap being all about drugs and bitches, and rock all about suicide and anger. But if this creates a negetive image and puts most peeps off, Then why the hell does it get in the charts?!
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like i said,the music appeals to pre-teens and not so much us older folk unless its in a club,then everybody likes it.but mostly girls like whats on the radio and tv.usually because they can dance to it.
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