Based on the catalogue releases of these two bands, who would you say has released the most important, influential, and best selling metal albums?
My votes goes to Slayer, and with good reason. Slayer more or less set the standard for thrash metal when it was birthed in the early 80's. When "Haunting the Chapel" dropped in 1984, metal as we knew it was changed forever. Although it was a 4 track EP, it went on to include 2 of the heaviest songs of all time, in both music and message. Taking the punk rock message and applying it to absolute trash metal, tracks such as "Chemical Warfare" got across Slayer's opinions anti-war stance, and made sure their presence was felt with the sadistic "Captor of Sin".
In 1985, one of the absolute darkest themed metal albums was released in "Hell Awaits", fast, empirical, and morbid, its inspiration can still be heard in metal today. One year later, we were graced with what is widely accepted as the greatest thrash metal, if not heavy metal album of all time. "Reign in Blood". Its unprecidented track listing now rolls off like a roster of all stars.
Angel Of Death..
Necrophobic...
Altar Of Sacrafice...
Jesus Saves...
Criminally Insane...
Postmortem...
Raining Blood...
..and while their follow up in "South of Heaven" produced two breakout tracks in the title track, and the anti-war cry, "Mandatory Suicide", the album was still of some importance, as metal was undergoing a major overhaul, and glam rock bands were taking top billing.
Becoming more and more comfortable in their own skin, Slayer returned with a vengeance in 1990, bucking the birth of grunge rock, establishing their place in the halls of metal lore with "Seasons in the Abyss". A polished and more mature Slayer rattled off a "RIB" like track listing comprised of "War Ensamble", "Dead Skin Mask", and gut-ripping, groove heavy "Born of Fire" and "Seasons in the Abyss".
Slayer follows up this successful outing with what has been heralded as one of the greatest live sets of all time in "DOA: Decade of Aggression". Music played to perfection, Slayer takes 10 years of their greatest material to the stage and presents it flawlessly. Enter Paul Bostaph for "Divine Intervention" album. This is Slayer at its philosophical and social peak. Very outspoken, Araya helms the "socially aware" metal juggernaut, and goes full steam ahead, blast beats and groove-core galore, taking no prisoners on tracks like "Dittohead", "Killing Fields", and "Serenity in Murder".
"Diabolus in Musica" is the product of a 4 year hiatus for Slayer, save the covers album, and it's a time when metal is at it's lowest peak, which was an otherwise high one for nu-metal. That flavor of the weak wore off on the metal giants, Slayer, Sepultura, Machine Head, and even Fear Factory played follow the leader in 1998, releasing rather luckluster efforts, tainted with the trend.
2001 was the year of retribution. "God Hates Us All" was the bands angriest, most inspired, brutal, doom ridden, truthful and unrelenting album to date. Tracks such as "Warzone", "Payback", "Cast Down". THIS IS SLAYER, this is godly.
while i do like both bands, i've never been able to take Slayer completely seriously after reading that Tom writes his lyrics using a thesaurus. music = top of the line but i cant take it seriously
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Slayer has Reign in Blood, easily one of the best metal albums of all time. Megadeth has both Peace Sells... But Who's Buying and Rust in Peace, which are excellent albums but not quite up to Reign in Blood.
Though Slayer has other very good albums (South of Heaven and Show No Mercy), it really ends up in a tie in the long run. Reason being is that Megadeth's two best releases surpass Reign in Blood but evens out with Slayer's other releases.
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OK, I'm not going to post the same thing over again considering you refuse to get my point. I'll just consider this a lost case considering how completely unimportant this conversation is.
But for future reference, King wouldn't have been shit without Dave Mustaine. That's a proven fact.
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Now THAT'S some bullshit. I get your "point" fine. You're trying to say that TWO Megadeth albums COMBINED are better than Slayer's best. OF COURSE THEY ARE! Especially if they are Megadeth's two best albums? That's a ****ing moronic, and unequal comparison.
Secondly, that's no proven fact. Lest we forget that it was Musty that tried to sign on King, who moonlighted at Megadeth live shows, because Dave couldn't find a perm guitar player for the band. Then, once Kerry refused to join, Dave was being his usual ***** self during the "Clash of the Titans" tour, ironically referring to Slayer as "a bunch of silly assholes who did nothing but drink beer and act stupid".
Kerry King started Slayer, and he owes absolutely nothing to Dave Mustaine, except an extension of his middle finger.
Proving Kerry wouldn't be anything without Dave would be off topic. This is about the discography, not talent. Therefore I retract my original statement on King and Mustaine. End discussion on that.
OK, here I go again. Back to the original topic. I'm not gonna say this again so listen up please.
Slayer - Excellent albums
Megadeth - Excellent albums
Slayer - Reign in Blood. The best album out of both artists.
Megadeth - Rust in Peace and Peace Sells... But Who's Buyin'. Great albums but not as good as Reign in Blood.
Slayer - All other releases. Great, but none were as good as Rust in Peace or Peace Sells... But Who's Buyin'.
Megadeth - All other releases. Definitely had a few good ones. They don't match up to the above mentioned other Slayer releases though.
Results (the numbers are just meant as visualizations, no NASA level accuracy here):
Slayer (RIB) +10
Megadeth (RIP & PSBWB) +7 +7 (+14 total for the slow ones)
Slayer (Other) +10
Megadeth (Other) +6
That's basically it. Slayer (+20). Megadeth (+20). There ya go. Equally good discographies. Enjoy.
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