Guns n' Roses 2006 tour; rumours and facts discussion
After a 2 decade absence, with only Axl's petty-full struggle to put together a new Guns n' Roses, an attempt to do a tour in 2001 and not to mention his yet unfinished quest to bring out the album 'Chinese Democracy'... all out of the blue comes the news that Guns goes on a worldwide tour this year!
I'm a big GnR fan, but I do mean Guns n' F*cking Roses, and not Axl teaming up with some unemployed musicians who have nothing to do with what GnR once was (like that wanker Buckethead). So this news didn't really get me hopping. But mildly interested, I did a search on it anyway and found rumours that some original band-members returned, as in Slash, Duff and Dizzy. This mostly on wikipedia, and I don't know how reliable their info really is.
It would be very hard to believe, with the lawsuits and accusations between Axl and his former band-members and Velvet Revolver releasing their 2nd album while being criticised by (jealous) hothead Axl.
To make a lot of blabla short, I was just wondering what you people know about the current situation on Guns n' Roses, or what you expect of this new tour attempt.
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I'm in england for a short period and i'm going to see GNR (or should that be "Axl and band) at the download festivial! I think that this make be the dawning of a new era for Guns N Roses and i'm looking 4ward Loads to chinese democracy! I'm gonna be write at the front and if its shit i can go on stage n' give axl a kickin' or summink!
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Ive also heard people talking about old members returning, which would really surprise me to say the least. Have to say im looking more forward to Velvet Revolvers follow-up then Chinese Democracy.
without slash, duff, izzy (or to a lesser extent, gilby) dizzy or matt...there isn't a guns n' roses. axl is a tool if he thinks so. the dork with the kfc bucket is nothing compared to slash.
I totally agree. It's only because Axl has the right to the name 'Guns n' Roses', allowing him to toss in any fool in the band and still can call it GnR.
Without a majority of the original members in the band, what ever composition made is not worthy the name, and will not persuade me into buying tickets.
But there is this 'what if, what if!' haunting me, as I read the rumours.
Then again, none of the official sites give anything away so far on who is in the band currently, while ticket-sales have already started.
If the likes of Slash, Duff and Dizzy would have re-joined GnR, it would have been widely published for the sake of selling tickets, not to mention THE comeback of the last 2 centuries.
It will be A) a dream come true as GnR reunites in a somewhat original form, or B) Axl messing it all up with a crew of crapheads (as Velvet Revolver already employed a respectable bunch of better rock-musicians, leaving Axl with scraps).
Never the less, my search for facts is on.
I read a review of Chinese Democracy and the dude said it was awesome, but he said it's going to be critically panned beyond all belief just because of how long it's taken etc.
i for one am still anxiously waiting for chinese democracy.. i know its been a long time but i cant help but think what axl has been composing for the past decade.
It’s been a long time since Guns N’ Roses have released an album of new material. Everybody knows this, but it’s a fact that bears repeating. If you purchased a kitten on the day that Use Your Illusion I & II arrived in stores, it’s probably dead by now. As a consequence, there has been a great deal of pressure on Axl Rose to deliver a record that would validate a 15-year, $13 million wait. There is really only one way for Chinese Democracy to avoid utter and absolute failure: It needs to be the greatest rock album ever made.
Chinese Democracy is not the greatest rock album ever made.
Oh, it’s certainly awesome, but I don’t think it’s "15 years awesome." Had Axl released his album after a silence of, say, 11 years and two months (at a cost of, say, $11.5 million), Chinese Democracy would be an undeniable masterpiece, but considering the circumstances, some of this work seems shoddy. I get the impression most of the 13 songs were written between 1993 and 1999, and Rose merely spent six or seven years touching them up in the studio. One is forced to wonder if a track like "Madagascar" was only recorded 75 or 80 times, which calls Axl’s alleged "maniacal perfectionism" directly into question.
Does Chinese Democracy offer glimpses of the paranoid, misogynistic genius we once heard on the soundtrack of Interview With the Vampire? Absotively. "The Blues" might be Rose’s crowning career achievement: It’s an epic combination of mid-period Stevie Wonder, early Elton John, and side two of In Through the Out Door. This is the kind of gutter-glam boogie ballad that makes "November Rain" seem like a bucket of burro vomit warming in the afternoon sun. Chinese Democracy is simultaneously propulsive and ponderous, and there are some electrifying guitar arpeggios on both "Silk Worm" and "Thursday Morning Strip Club" (performed, I assume, by either Buckethead, Robin Finck, Zakk Wylde, Johnny Marr, or Brian May -- all five are listed in the liner notes). But this transcendence is sporadic at best: All too often, Rose’s sonic neurosis plunges into self-reflexive self-indulgence, most notably on the outdated 14-minute rap-rock anthem "Pound You (Good)" and an embarrassing "roots rock" duet with new buddy Dave Pirner titled "You’re Still Too Sweet Not to Be My Baby Anymore." Several songs make thinly veiled references to the architect who designed Rose’s backyard topiary garden, a move that may confuse casual listeners.
Obviously, the sexy albatross hanging around Rose’s wiry jugular is simple modernity: Could he create an album that would sound contemporary -- and competitive -- in today’s ever-evolving marketplace? As such, it is hard to understand why he elected to have Chinese Democracy coproduced by Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, Kiss) and Phil Ramone (Billy Joel, Barbra Streisand). Songs like "Catcher in the Rye" exhibit the sculpted sheen of Billy Joel’s Glass Houses, and the LP includes several tracks on which GNR bassist Tommy Stinson appears to be playing a note-for-note replication of the bass line from "Another Brick in the Wall." Skeptics might also bristle at the anger that still resides in Axl’s heart; his hairstyle and facial features have changed, but his inner intensity remains grizzly-esque. On the caustic rocker "Slash and Burned," Rose lashes out at his former bandmates now in Velvet Revolver with staggering specificity: "Your singer has cocaine eyes and a skeletonized trance / We’ll see if RCA recoups their advance." Rose has also retained his pathological distaste for the media, lyrically attacking the editors of Vanity Fair, MTV personality Sway, numerous teenage bloggers, and the city hall reporter for the Cincinnati Enquirer (who, curiously, has never written about pop music).
Still, Rose always possesses the potential to surprise us, as he does on a slightly reggaetón cover of Thin Lizzy’s "Cowboy Song" and a faithful (albeit befuddling) version of "Think About You," a tune actually written and recorded by Guns N’ Roses in 1987. But a deeper quandary remains: Does Chinese Democracy accomplish its goal? After all this time and all that money, will this album truly bring democracy to China?
You don't need to be faecetious about it. If Guns N' Roses were still around in their original form they'd be making the kind of music that Velvet Revolver are currently making.
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Nope. I couldn't imagine RATM or Soundgarden doing anything tat sounded like Audioslave but I could imagine Axl era guns n' roses bringing out velvet revolver stuff. I saw them (VR) last year and they covered Mr Brownstone and My Michelle and it's fair enough to say it brought the house down.
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I didn't come here to argue, I was merely stating my thoughts. And besides, if you'd read my original post you'd see that I was stating that velvet revolver complete with Slash and his songwriting hooks are more guns n' roses than Axl and his backing group.
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Last edited by amity75 on Apr 6th, 2006 at 12:16 AM
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I hope they tour L.A. never had the chance to be in a GNR concert. As for the current status of the band...well, they been in decline for years. But that shouldn't be discouraging. At least I think so...
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