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MYSTICAL BEING
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clones and storm troopers

the other day i read a forum discussing when the clones became stormtroopers. it was closed saying that lucas said clones and storm troopers are the same. i cant accept this as there are many stories after rotj with the emporer dead so they are hardly gonna be produced still, and they die 2x as fast as a normal human due to growth acceleration.
also i hav read a story about a stormtrooper called davin felth, he wasnt a clone.

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Most logical explanation that seems to work for EU is that some were clones and some were recruited.

By the time of ANH, ESB, ROTJ most of the stormtroopers were probably recruits... If growth acceleration still works then they would be dead around that time anyway


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What?


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MYSTICAL BEING
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yeah, what?

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ok thanks for that

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too many death sticks?

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did he sell you rhyll? or 'spice?'

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I read that some were recruited and some were cloned from NUMEROUS cloning sources, but not Jango clones during the OT time.


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ive had enuff of drugs now, take it to the drugs forum

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what about the imperial officers? i know some like tarkin and captain lorth needa were in ep 3 and on? were any of them cloned for the old trilogy?

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i duno. enuff with drugs

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SixOfTwelve
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I know the thread has sorta gone off the topic, but this is what I gathered from the films and the history of their different editions.

In AOTC, Jango was established as the source for the Clone Troopers, and Boba was seen to be Jango's clone.

In the DVD edition of TESB, Boba Fett's voice was redone by Temuera Morrison, the actor who played Jango, to create continuity.

HOWEVER: The stormtroopers' voices were NOT redone, there are still stormtroopers of various sizes and varying voices.

My conclusion: If GL had wanted the OT stormtroopers to be clones, he would at least have redubbed the voices.

HOWEVER, part II: In the commentary to AOTC, Lucas says he had Jango bump his head on purpose and jokes about the trait getting cloned into the stormtroopers, since some keep bumping their heads into doors in ANH. Now genetically, this is rubbish, but it does lead me to a few possible revised conclusions.

Conclusion A: Some clones are still around - possibly some were created without growth acceleration after the rise of the Empire - but the majority of stormtroopers consist of normal soldiers. The ones who bump their heads in ANH are clones, clumsy or both.

Conclusion B: All stormtroopers are clones, and George Lucas was too lazy to have them fixed for the DVD release.

Conclusion C: There are no more clones. The head bumping gag is a silly joke and can be ignored.

I'm leaning towards C most days, with a dash of A on some of my weirder days. Which brings us nicely back to the topic of drugs. Carry on.

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