list the anchient sith!
list from weakest to strongest every sith you can think of stronger than DE sidious (because I just am so confused about all of this with sadow, ragnos, kun and all them.)
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Disregarding Tulak Hord and Ajunta Pall since we know nothing about them. In order..
1. Ragnos
2. Simus
3. Sadow
4. Kressh
5. Nadd
6. Kun(waiting for IKC's rebuttal)
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Kun is above Nadd. Check out TOTJ: Knights of the Old Republic. He never fought an army of Jedi as the ridiculous KOTOR game suggests, and Onderon is described as a remote backwater that was just discovering space travel four hundred years after Nadd's death. This places his feat of conquering Onderon, while still impressive, into new context: Nadd could merely have strafed the place in his ship to conquer it, for example.
Combine this with the fact that Kun was able to perform feats as a spirit that were similar to Nadd's own, and that Kun's were performed 4000 years after his own death, and it's safe to say that he's above Nadd.
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Yea he was able to perform feats 4,000 years after, BECAUSE HE WASNT Killed. That shouldn't diminish Nadd's abilities nor increase the feats of Kun. Nadd forced Kun down the dark side and it wasn't until Kun got a hold of Sadow's amulets and teachings, did he knowingly become strong enough to kill off Nadd.
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Yes, except that Kun and Nadd's spirits were virtually identical: both were Sith spirits that displayed similar capabilities. It doesn't matter whether Kun was killed or not, he was not alive and therefore began to lose power the moment he became a spirit.
Because Kun was shown to display similar abilities while dead for a longer amount of time, Kun's spirit's displayed power is greater than Nadd's.
Nadd's forcing Kun down the Dark Side hardly means anything: Jedi Knight Kun can hardly compare to what he became at the height of the Sith War.
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Nobody's arguing what he became AFTER he obtained sith knowledge and Sadow's Amulet. Why not compare their spirits after 500 years? This isn't feat wars you know. Nadd was the stronger of the two AS a spirit.
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No, he wasn't. And because we know precisely dick about Kun's spirit after 500 years (and Nadd's never made it to 500 years), except that after 4000 years he still was displaying powers similar to Nadd's, Kun's displayed power is greater than Nadd's.
Spirits lose strength over time, or didn't you realize that?
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So the question is, how is the Kun fanboy(you) going to measure Kun's spirit after 4,000 years as opposed to Nadd's when Kun got a hold of him? Or maybe the smart thing for you to do is say you know dick about Nadd to put Kun above or below him?
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When the hell did Kun "get a hold of Nadd" except when he destroyed his spirit?
Your ability to comprehend logic is lacking:
1) Spirits weaken over time
2) Kun's and Nadd's spirits display very similar powers and abilities.
3) Nadd's spirit displayed these powers only 400 years after being separated from his body, whereas Kun's displayed them 4000 years after.
Ergo, Kun's displayed power is greater than Nadd's. Combine that with Nadd's Onderon feat being put in context, and Kun > Nadd until new evidence comes forth for him.
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So who's to say Nadd's spirit wouldn't have displayed the exact same skills he displayed after 400 years or 4,000 years? Bottom line is Nadd's spirit manipulated, and corrupted Kun, who was useless without the sith magic and Sadow's Amulet. That alone puts him above Kun, no matter how much you worship him.
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Says the one who considers himself a logical debater in a star wars versus forum. I may know less than you in terms of star wars which in no way hurts me, but you make yourself look pathetic by telling me I lack the debating skills in a star wars forum..
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Please, whatever brings you comfort in your apparently meaningless existence is fine with me. Making you look like an ass is not a difficult job, you're doing all the work for me.
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Making me look like an ass while making yourself look like a 1 dimensional geek. You're right, I am doing all the work for you, you can thank me later sport.
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Mar 7th, 2006 04:10 AM
http://darthglentract.tripod.com/index.html Go Jawa's!!
