How badly did mace crushing grievous's chest damage grievous's combat ablities? And isn't Force Crush a darkside power any way? I know that vaapad opens the user up to the dark side but i didn't think mace would go as far as using force crush. (the end of star wars the clone wars the cartoon).
__________________ Jedi! You are sourrunded. Your army is decimated. Make peace with the force now for this is your final hour. But know that ,I, General Grievous am not completly without mercy. I will grant you a warriors death. Prepare...... -General Grievous-
I personally belive it did i mean think about it my friend if someone used force crush on YOU'RE CHEST do you think it would hamper you're combat ability and BTW that lead to Obi-Wans "Lucky" defeat of Grevious
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Well yeah it would mess me up but i'm not 98% mechinacal and would have instantly killed me. And being shot by a trooper wouldn'y work cause grievous's armor is Blaster resitant(thats spelled wrong i think) But i do belive Grievous may have beat obi-won if is wasn't for mace.
__________________ Jedi! You are sourrunded. Your army is decimated. Make peace with the force now for this is your final hour. But know that ,I, General Grievous am not completly without mercy. I will grant you a warriors death. Prepare...... -General Grievous-
Force Crush isn't a Dark Side power, it's no different from squeezing something with the force. Only the manner in which he used it determines its alignment.
Luke didn't kill the Gamorreans (I think), and Mace, already closer to the Dark Side than most Jedi used it aggressively yes, but wouldn't stabbing someone in battle be just as aggressive. Not to mention it was a little justified.
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Mace did not use Force Crush, he used Force Grip to enclose Grievous' chestplace.
Force Crush IS a dark side power and is actually considered the darkest power the sith use, seeing as it lifts the body and crushes almost every single bone in the opponent's body.
No, Crush is just a stronger version of grip. If a Jedi grips a rock or crushes the rock, that doesn't make him Dark. Only if their intentions are malevolent does it make crush or grip Dark or evil.
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Last edited by Lord Lucien on Apr 1st, 2007 at 07:43 PM
Dude, clearly you've gone some next idea of what 'apples and oranges' actually are, but you're wrong in this case. Both force push and force pull move objects with TK, and both force crush and force grip compress objects with TK. Both cases contain two comparable actions, so you're wrong, they're not 'apples and oranges' so stop repeating the same sh1t.
Well saying that a jedi could use force crush on a rock without being malevolent would be okay is the same or worse as saying a jedi could use Lightning on a rock if they weren't malevolent.
__________________ Jedi! You are sourrunded. Your army is decimated. Make peace with the force now for this is your final hour. But know that ,I, General Grievous am not completly without mercy. I will grant you a warriors death. Prepare...... -General Grievous-
Lightning is conjured using raw emotions, which lead to the Dark Side, then it is also used in a malevolent way on living people.
Crush is just a larger version of grip, which isn't done using negative emotions. If it's used in a "bad" way, then it becomes a Dark move. The technique itself though is Dark affiliated.
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Pretty much, though I think Lightning's an exception.
And I meant, "The technique itself though ISN'T Dark affiliated."
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Mace Windu crushing Grievous's Chest
Mar 31st, 2007 06:39 AM
