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Ways to attack Jedi/Sith that blaster wielding foes don't seem to use that often
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Ways to attack Jedi/Sith that blaster wielding foes don't seem to use that often

With two pistols, you could fire one high and one low at the same time.
With multiple soldiers, you could fire at the same time in different spaces instead of taking turns to fire.
You could use a shotgun that fires in a spread.
You could use automatic weapons.

Or possibly Jedi/Sith/other Force users have a counter to all of these.


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Sonic weapons are hard to counter unless you know how, and even then probably take more effort than standard blasters.


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Just throw away the blaster and grab an Ak-47 and the jedi is dead... No jedi would survive an assault rifle, especially if it's more then one wielder who is firing from a different direction due to overwhelming firing rate and unability do deflect the ammo back to the shooter.


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AthenasTrgrFngr
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ive been barking up this tree since forever.

just go dig up my old posts on the subject, twill provide all the answers you want. a jedi would last maybe an hour in the real world before he gets taken down. theyre too linear.


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You're assuming a Jedi wouldn't adapt. They would though. Even the first few battles with the Yuuzhan Vong were lost until they figured out to adapt and counter.

Read up on "force shield" I have no doubts that if they concentrated their efforts on other defenses, a simple shotgun blast would be more laughable than a shot from a DL-44.

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given enough time anyone can adapt to anything. its an inconsequential point


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They had guns i.e. "slugthrowers" in Star Wars. They had them before they had blasters and such. Jedi awareness works a lot like the Matrix thing were they could avoid or just stop bullets in mid air. "The force exists between me and you. Between you and the rock, the tree, it flows through us and binds us." Or something like that hehe. So no guns aren't effective against Jedi. IMO


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no.


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Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
given enough time anyone can adapt to anything. its an inconsequential point


Not really. You said a Jedi would last an hour, I said they would reaccess the situation.

Mara Jade had to re-adapt with her first encounter within a matter of seconds.

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What do you mean by No? I just finished Outcast and Han uses slugthower types of weapons for the spiders on Kessel cus they absorb energy weapons. He even had a shotgun like weapon. Just wondering what ya meant?


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Slugthrowers are harder to block than standard blasters, but Jedi do it all the time.

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In DN, even Luke noticed that they were hard to block iirc, but yep, tehy were doing it.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by akpwnz
Not really. You said a Jedi would last an hour, I said they would reaccess the situation.

Mara Jade had to re-adapt with her first encounter within a matter of seconds.


how can he react if hes dead? the jedi wont survive the fist encounter. you act as if he'll get "beaten" and then be able to learn from his mistakes and fight again later. do you know whats going to happen when the jedi tries to defend himself for the first time from a shotgun blast or a flurrry of fully automatic gunfire and it doesnt work? hes going to die. there is no "adaptation".


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Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
how can he react if hes dead? the jedi wont survive the fist encounter. you act as if he'll get "beaten" and then be able to learn from his mistakes and fight again later. do you know whats going to happen when the jedi tries to defend himself for the first time from a shotgun blast or a flurrry of fully automatic gunfire and it doesnt work? hes going to die. there is no "adaptation".


Many Jedi have died to automatic blaster and quad blaster bolts before too. Look how many died via blaster bolts during order 66.

So basically your argument is "Machine guns > blasters"

How adorable!

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what does this
quote: (post)
Originally posted by akpwnz
[B]Many Jedi have died to automatic blaster and quad blaster bolts before too. Look how many died via blaster bolts during order 66.
have to do with this:

quote:
So basically your argument is "Machine guns > blasters"


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Um, no.

Weapons such as the AK-47 would probably be uneffective. Most Jedi need a lightsaber to deflect an incoming blaster shot. They wouldn't need it to stop bullets. Bullets are usually metal projectiles. Emphasis on metal. The Force > metal projectiles. They can just stop them at midair, like Neo does in the Matrix. They can't do that with blaster fire.


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I don't think a Jedi could outright stop a bullet in a Neo fashion, not unless they were particularly powerful... but they could make it miss quite easily. It's just not something we see particularly often in the Star Wars universe.

'Dangerous in numbers' works for multiple shooters, yeah. That's why Order 66 and the Battle of Geonosis went so poorly for Jedi. Aside from the element of surprise with Order 66, they're also taking fire from sooo many shooters.

So no, AK-47 wouldn't do all that much more.


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LOL Lord Lucien!


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Originally posted by REXXXX
I don't think a Jedi could outright stop a bullet in a Neo fashion, not unless they were particularly powerful... but they could make it miss quite easily. It's just not something we see particularly often in the Star Wars universe.

'Dangerous in numbers' works for multiple shooters, yeah. That's why Order 66 and the Battle of Geonosis went so poorly for Jedi. Aside from the element of surprise with Order 66, they're also taking fire from sooo many shooters.

So no, AK-47 wouldn't do all that much more.


This is very true. The Jedi don't have to stop the bullets, just redirect them, and they have Tiny Mass.

C'Baoth stopping a missile in mid-air shows the speed of the object doesn't matter too much, especially in a redirection.

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