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Why is TOR less skilled than the PT?

From many discussions across multiple boards, I've seen posters typically rank the best of TOR's duelists as being somewhat less skilled than Obi Wan Kenobi. For an era that had a Jedi orde with near ubiquitous Lightsaber duels with Sith, why didn't the TOR era produce individuals as skilled as Mace Windu, Anakin, or Yoda? Is it because TOR Sith are by and large inferior opponents compared to individuals such as Maul, Dooku, and Grievous?- or that TOR focused more on force prowess? What are your thoughts for why TOR lags behind in saber skill, and where do you personally think the eras best rank?


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TOR isn't less skilled. It just so happens that 2016 is dominated by PT wank.

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Lmfao. TOR is a relatively unexplored video game. Of course there won't be dueling feats to show for it. We say they're below Kenobi in dueling because there's no evidence to the contrary. smile


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Being below Kenobi isn't a bad thing.

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Just cause they fight against Sith regularly doesn't mean they should be leaps and bounds above others. I mean TPM is a great example, the Jedi hadn't fought against a Sith in what....1,000 years or so?

Despite that fact, Jinn and Obi-Wan did well enough against Maul where they weren't immediately stomped into the ground. Otherwise Maul wouldn't have led them into an environment that favored him, he would have just ended them without that hassle. Same on Tatooine against Jinn.

Which the fact that they hadn't encountered such a foe for that long and yet still did that well, should actually show that the skill disparity between the TOR era and PT era hadn't waned. (If it did, it hardly matters)

Which actually makes sense, when you realize that the PT era had been training to fight against the Sith of old.


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TOR isn't less skilled. It just so happens that 2016 is dominated by PT wank.




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It isn't, it just doesn't have the things people love to wank around here like statements about how they're one of the best in history and such. The PT also has the advantage of being intensely interconnected so each character props up others by showing how they compare easily. We know Kits great because he fought GG, we know GG is great because he fought Kenobi, we know Kenobi is great because he fought Maul etc etc.

TOR lacks that. The major characters are boss fights and then die. It makes it hard to gauge them without them having that level of support and exposure.


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Because thousands of years of combat advancement. yes


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Who said that? Act 2 HoT is around Darth Vader's level already. Malgus is as good a combatant as Caedus is, prolly above, but not yet Yoda level, same goes with Arcann, etc.


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Re: Why is TOR less skilled than the PT?

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From many discussions across multiple boards, I've seen posters typically rank the best of TOR's duelists as being somewhat less skilled than Obi Wan Kenobi. For an era that had a Jedi orde with near ubiquitous Lightsaber duels with Sith, why didn't the TOR era produce individuals as skilled as Mace Windu, Anakin, or Yoda? Is it because TOR Sith are by and large inferior opponents compared to individuals such as Maul, Dooku, and Grievous?- or that TOR focused more on force prowess? What are your thoughts for why TOR lags behind in saber skill, and where do you personally think the eras best rank?


The TOR era Jedi trained and served in a wartime environment. This left them with little room or time for experimentation and innovation in lightsabre combat, forcing them to adopt a "stick to what works" mentality. Mace Windu, Anakin etc. had the luxury of time and opportunity to try out new techniques to refine their skills. Had Mace been born in the TOR era he would never have been able to develop Vaapad.

There's also the issue of quality vs. quantity. TOR era Jedi mostly focused on battlefield engagements where they had lots of allies (both other Jedi and soldiers) to help them. PT era Jedi again had more time to focus on the subtleties of one-on-one duelling.

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TIL: The PT wasn't wartime and that the TOR Jedi focused on quantity over quality, despite all evidence to the contrary.

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What's your opinion on this, Freshest?


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My opinion on this is that this is retarded.

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black opinions matter

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And Polefags don't even have the internet, so I'm not sure why you're even here instead of slaving away in the salt mines.

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mentally disabled aren't forced to do labor

internet is stolen obviously


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Right. The mentally disabled run the government.

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correct

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