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Where to rank Dooku?
I'm curious as to where most of KMC holds Dooku as of his Sith Lord days. Where does he rank compared to Yoda and Sidious? Windu? Vader? Pretty much anything.
Equal to mace at any time, the only reason Mace was able to combat Sidious at all was because he fed off his emotions, Dooku was always pretty composed in a fight so I'm not sure that Vaapaad would work so well on him.
Registered: Mar 2017
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I'm with the general consensus that he's around Mace level. But easily Tier 8, above Maul. But Mace could beat Dooku.
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis
Registered: Mar 2017
Location: Sith shrine below the Jedi Temple
Ehhhh not entirely. Mace definitely a better pure duelist than Sidious. Mace was a master of all seven forms, and a practised master at that. Sidious didn't practice at all, at least not for over a decade I'm pretty sure, so even though he had mastered all seven forms, he was out of practice. But, Sidious' augmentation made him fast enough that it didn't matter how sloppy he was, because his speed made up for it.
It's also my opinion that before Vappad kicked in Sidious was prolonging the fight. I use the scene in the movie to demonstrate this when Sidious exposes Mace and has his blade pointed straight at the chest, showing him to be the better duelist. But after that Vappad channelled, making them deadlock even fighters.
Just wanted to clarify that.
And true, Dooku didn't use emotions typical of dark side users in a fight. But I'm pretty certain in the comics Mace and Dooku vs each other and Mace is show to be superior.
__________________ The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design. - Darth Plagueis
Err, a fair 80-85% of the evidence points in the opposite direction, actually.
Unconfirmed rumor. It may be true, but it's never suggested in any official material, to my knowledge.
On the other hand, Sidious is confirmed in a number of sources to be a master of every form with every weapon.
Oh god, not another youtube junkie. This is blatantly false, Sidious employs one of the most intricate and efficient fighting styles in the mythos, and his movements have been described by master swordsmen as never carrying him a millimeter out of position.
No evidence at all to suggest Vaapad has a channel time to begin with.
What you say about Dooku's is true (he elaborates on this in LoE,) but the latter claim is false. Mace has never been shown to have the upper hand against Dooku in combat, ever.
"It took a really long time for Nick (Gillard) to work out Sidious' fighting style, and he has a style that's constantly changing. His style is one in which you'll never get the better of him. It is ambiguous --- he'll fight less than you and draw you in; you're a sucker if you think you're going to better him."
"Sidious is a master of every weapon and every style."
"Pertaining to whether Sidious is right-handed or left-handed with a lightsaber, he's ambidextrous. He's just that good. Sidious' abilities are beyond anything we've experienced."
"Sidious can appear frail and slow, but the Sith Lord should not be underestimated - he is a master of all forms of lightsaber combat."
"But strong as he had become, Maul found himself in awe of Sidious. The Sith Lord was astonishingly fast and efficient, and the Force flowed through him effortlessly. His sabers stabbed and slashed through the smallest hole in an opponent’s guard, his movements never carried him a millimeter out of position, and he could sense every attack Maul and Savage made before it developed."
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Mar 21st, 2017 09:04 PM
