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Was Coruscant a light side nexus?
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Mendax
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Was Coruscant a light side nexus?

Only asking because that was the base of the entire Jedi Order for thousands of years. You'd think some part of that power would have rubbed off lol.

And if it was, why did Sidious stay there after he destroyed the Jedi? I;d think he wouldn't like being around all that residual light sided energy. confused


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In the new canon I recall there was actually a darkside nexus beneath the Jedi Temple that they thought they'd be able to turn but were never able to.

Which would be really pathetic is it where true.


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^ There was indeed a powerful Sith shrine on Coruscant -- and as you said, the Jedi actually built their Temple directly over it.

The shrine was so powerful, in fact, that it actually served to help weaken/corrupt the Jedi Order for all those thousands of years since their Temple's construction, without them ever realizing such:
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"The two of them were in Sidious's lair, a small rock-walled enclosure beneath the deepest of the Palace's several sublevels that had once been an ancient Sith shrine. That the Jedi had raised their Temple over the shrine had for a thousand years been one of the most closely guarded secrets of those Sith Lords who had perpetuated and implemented the revenge strategy of the Jedi Order's founders. Even the most powerful of Dark Side Adepts believed that shrines of the sort existed only on Sith worlds remote from Coruscant, and even the most powerful of the Jedi believed that the power inherent in the shrine had been neutralized and successfully capped. In truth, that power had seeped upward and outward since its entombment, infiltrating the hallways and rooms above, and weakening the Jedi Order much as the Sith Masters themselves had secretly infiltrated the corridors of political power and toppled the Republic. Save for Sidious, no sentient being in close to five thousand years had set foot in the shrine... Even Vader was unaware of the shrine's existence."

-Tarkin



...So Palpatine obviously had nothing to fear from the light that had once existed on Coruscant.


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knightfall vader was amped.


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The same is true in Legends, actually. Which actually makes Plagueis' claim of some light side nexus existing across the galaxy pretty hilarious tbh.


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Does that lowball Palpatine's feats on Coruscant?


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Originally posted by JMANGO
knightfall vader was amped.


Nah, in Legends, the effects of the Sith shrine have never been mentioned to have any significant effect, and the RotS novel itself confirms the Jedi Temple to be a lightside nexus. I think another source states Coruscant is a lightside nexus too.

So Sheev and Vader were hindered during their residence and fighting there thumb up


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Sithisis confirms what has been said in the canon.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
Nah, in Legends, the effects of the Sith shrine have never been mentioned to have any significant effect, and the RotS novel itself confirms the Jedi Temple to be a lightside nexus.
so how does that factor in with the source galan posted? Was it a light AND dark nexus during ROTS lol?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Sithisis confirms what has been said in the canon.
how so?


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Originally posted by Mendax
so how does that factor in with the source galan posted? Was it a light AND dark nexus during ROTS lol?
At a time when there was a Temple full of hundreds/thousands of Jedi, light was obviously the predominate and prevailing force that could be sensed on Coruscant. While the Sith shrine buried beneath was powerful enough to seep into the Temple and help weaken/corrupt the Jedi for thousands of years without them ever suspecting such, it certainly wasn't powerful enough to completely overcome *that* much light on its own.

So no, Coruscant being regarded exclusively as a light side nexus prior to the crescendo of RotS still makes sense, all things considered.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mendax
so how does that factor in with the source galan posted? Was it a light AND dark nexus during ROTS lol?


They're from different continuities.


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Originally posted by Mendax
how so?


1. How the visuals are portrayed
2. It's a closed chamber that looks very Sith-y
3. Palpatine was using a Dark Side/Sith crystal to get the aid of Chaos spirits to fog the Jedi's foresight


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No, I don't think Light Side nexuses exist, purely because nexus's are created by violent acts of murder or power through the Force. I answered a similar question regarding if the Tatooine Tusken Camp where Anakin slaughtered all the Sand People was a nexus. I originally said no, but now I say yes. It was a nexus. A small nexus, but a nexus nonetheless.

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Light side nexuses clearly do exist in the lore.


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Originally posted by Azronger
They're from different continuities.
True, but the RotS novelization is still canon, no? Because it does indeed regard the Jedi Temple on Coruscant as the greatest light side nexus in the Order:
quote:
"The Jedi Temple was the greatest nexus of Force energy in the Republic; its ziggurat design focused the Force the way a lightsaber's gemstone focused its energy stream. With the thousands of Jedi and Padawans within it every day contemplating peace, seeking knowledge, and meditating on justice and surrender to the will of the Force, the Temple was a fountain of the light."

-RotS


Hence my previous response as to why light could have still been the predominate/prevailing force on Coruscant, despite an active(and quite powerful) Sith shrine existing below the Temple. /shrug


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The Temple may be, but not Coruscant.


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SO do you guys think the presence of Sidious + it being built over a potent dark side shrine would have been been the driving forces that converted the temple into more of a dark side nexus after ROTS?


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^ I'd imagine the slaughter of dozens of children in the Temple(along with a slew of other innocents) contributed to that as well.


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Originally posted by Mendax
SO do you guys think the presence of Sidious + it being built over a potent dark side shrine would have been been the driving forces that converted the temple into more of a dark side nexus after ROTS?


In Legends, it was not his presence. It was his dark side rituals he conducted in that Sith shrine with the aid of the Sith ghosts.


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