Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya

Itachi and Kisame fight one of the legendary sannin Jiraiya.

Who wins?

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It seems you know so little about Naruto.
Or do you even REALLY read Naruto?
Itachi said it himself. He can't beat Jiraiya, even with the help of Kisame.

Itachi said that both he and kisame cannot beat jiraiya. He then said that at best they would kill him but die as well. MEaning that jiraiya would still take d majority.

Hell, they said that even with more people, they would all still die. 😐

Which is in itself amazing considering Itachi's feats > J-Man's by a long shot.

Well, only his super cheapo moves really.

Maybe Jiraiya could avoid them? mmm

Meh.

Itachi said it himself that even with Kisame's help, they get wtfpwned by Jiraiya.
End of story.
No need for debates of who has the better feats or some other shit.

That's stupid logic, no offense.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
That's stupid logic, no offense.

actually thats not what they said. kisame said that even though itachi would be ok against sum1 like jiraya, he himself could not take a sennin and was worried. to which itachi replied, that there was no need to fight him, and it would be putting them both in unnecessary danger, and they cudnt be sure that they would leave the battle undamaged. or sumthing like that. they never said jiraya cud BEAT them.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually thats not what they said. kisame said that even though itachi would be ok against sum1 like jiraya, he himself could not take a sennin and was worried. to which itachi replied, that there was no need to fight him, and it would be putting them both in unnecessary danger, and they cudnt be sure that they would leave the battle undamaged. or sumthing like that. they never said jiraya cud BEAT them.

No actually they did say that Jiraiya could beat them. Kisame said that maybe itachi could fight him evenly but he could not. Itachi then said that even if we both fought him we would die. He then s aid that in a good( lucky instance) case they might be able to kill him but they would still die along with him. That even with more people it would be the same scenario.
So yeah by Itachis own Admission Jiraiya >>>>He and kisame together

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well, only his super cheapo moves really.

Maybe Jiraiya could avoid them? mmm

Meh.

Well yeah i wud think Jiraya cud avoid them. CUz by Itachis statement Jiraiya is much greater than him.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually thats not what they said. kisame said that even though itachi would be ok against sum1 like jiraya, he himself could not take a sennin and was worried. to which itachi replied, that there was no need to fight him, and it would be putting them both in unnecessary danger, and they cudnt be sure that they would leave the battle undamaged. or sumthing like that. they never said jiraya cud BEAT them.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Comparing feats with on-panel statements said by the characters themselves
is stupid logic

Uh- no. No it's not.

How many times have Itachi and Jiraiya fought to the death, and used all of their most powerful moves?

If they haven't, then what they say is pointless. Same goes for Deidera and Sasori. Feats are infallible, characters aren't.

well it doesnt make sense either way, since he is a sannin and didnt consider himself superior to uro and fought on nearly equal terms with him. also, uro admitted that itachi was superior.

I think it is just easier to say even Kishimoto has no real idea what the tiering system should be in Naruto.

This is what Itach and Kisame said in the japanese version

Kisame : While you may be able to manage against him, I couldn't possibly...He's in a completely different level...

Itachi : Yeah... If we go at each other, well' either both be killed or at best, kill each other simultaneously.

Itachi: Even if we increased the numbers, that wouldn't change.

Kisame : I didn't expect the kid's gauge would be a legendary Sannin. With him as the opponent...the names of the Leaf Village's Uchiha Clan and the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist would be tarnished.

Itachi : Yeah, However... Any strong one has a weakness...

But anyway feats a meaningless as one person stated. Every fighter in Naruto fights differently. They don't all pull out their best moves every single figth and if one character states one is stronger or if the stats by Kishimoto say one character is stronger than they are.

And I mean gaurd not gauge

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown

If they haven't, then what they say is pointless.

Itachi and Pein haven't fought, but looking at their power set alone, it is safe to conclude that Pein >>>> Itachi.
And I'm 100% sure Pein is stronger than Itachi, and that Itachi dies like Jiraiya or even worse.

Itachi could burn everybody with amaterasu except for the fat one who absorbs attacks. At the end, the fight would be a tie then.