Does God Matter?
Questioning the Importance of God
The question of whether or not some sort of god exists is not one which should necessarily occupy the minds of atheists all of the time. Theists - especially Christians - regularly challenge us with arguments and ideas which supposedly demonstrate that their god definitely exists. But prior to that, there is an even more important issue to address: is a god really important in our lives?
Interesting topic about God matters. I find it intriguing that Atheist discuss so much about God. They reject God, that's fine. To say that God doesn't exists is quite a declaration. I been trying to stay on the philosophical area of God. But ppl keep saying God doesn't exist.......how? and where did they came to that conclusion? then again, how did other ppl came to the conclusion of God's existence.
Of course God matters!
Well, not to everyone, but at least to a huge amount of people. Theists mostly believe in some kind of higher existance cause they need to feel secure, they need to feel that they are not alone out here, that something greater than them exists and will protect them. So they keep finding strength to live 🙂
and especially elders, knowing that life will soon be over, believe strongly in God cause they know the end is probably near.
Lastly, many religions define morals and preach about peace, love, compassion, making us better people 😄
I myself am not religious, but many people do NEED a God to believe in.
Originally posted by Evy_O
Lastly, many religions define morals and preach about peace, love, compassion, making us better people 😄
The question is whether or not belief in any god or higher power is required for morality and social stability.
An examination of history makes it evident that believers in gods can be very violent, especially when it comes to other groups of believers who follow different gods.
Another interesting fact to point out is that the claim doesn' t actually require any god to really exist. If social stability and morality are only achieved with believing in a god, even a false god, then the theist is claiming that human societies require massive deceit in order to survive. Moreover, the theist is arguing that a society doesn' t actually need their god, since any god will apparently do.
A more fundamental objection, however, is the implicit portrayal of humanity which such a claim makes. The unspoken reason why humans need some god to be moral is that they are not capable of creating their own social rules and, hence, require an eternal rule-giver with accompanying eternal rewards and eternal punishments.
How can a theist possibly claim this when even chimpanzees and other primates are clearly capable of creating social rules? The theist is attempting to create ignorant children out of all of us. In their eyes, we are apparently incapable of running our own affairs; worse yet, only the promise of eternal reward and the threat of eternal punishment will keep us in line. Perhaps this is actually true of them, and that would be unfortunate.
Originally posted by WindDancer
I guess MLK and Ghandi were very weak men with no strenght and courage.
But these two gentlemen found strength within themselves. They believed in their cause, and fought for it. They didn't ask God why things couldn't be different. They made things different themselves...
yeah but, Storm, as you can see, humans are one of the very few beings on this planet that kill each other; chimpazees, for example, don't, that's why men need defined morals
as for some turning violent, I agree, but I'm sure the people that are becoming better persons through religion, are more than the ones that are influenced in a bad way 😖
Originally posted by Linkalicious
the weak rely on God for strength, because they lack the courage to find the strength within themselves.
I completely disagree! it's not a matter of weakness, to me it has to do with intelligence, environment, insecurities and yes, weakness too, but you CAN'T generalize like that
Originally posted by Evy_O
I completely disagree! it's not a matter of weakness, to me it has to do with intelligence, environment, insecurities and yes, weakness too, but you CAN'T generalize like that
are you for real?
and WD....you're even worst for agreeing...
how can you completely disagree with me, if you agree that weakness is part of it??? 😕
perhaps you, "sorta" disagree...but you can't totally disagree. Unless contradiciting yourself in an arguement is is a good thing.
Besides....
If knowledge is power, then lack of intelligence is a sign of weakness.
Insecurity? A sign of weakness.
Environment? You'll have to further explain yourself, but I'm pretty sure what you mean.
I made a generalized statement, because specifiying all the small parts, STILL gets me to the whole.