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is it true that there is a poket universe the size of an atom?
like if someone shrunk to that size(even though its not possible)
if they shrink to the size smaller than an atom you find your self in a pocket universe?


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...why is this in philosophy? And as far as I can tell this only science fiction.


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no, this is not true


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There was an old philosophical argument (but not a scientific one) that said each atom was a miniature solar system with the nucleus as a star and the electrons as planets. That was trivial to disprove at the time and total gibberish now.


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There was an old philosophical argument (but not a scientific one) that said each atom was a miniature solar system with the nucleus as a star and the electrons as planets. That was trivial to disprove at the time and total gibberish now.



That idea showed up in Animal House during the "smoke weed with the professor" scene.


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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
is it true that there is a poket universe the size of an atom?
like if someone shrunk to that size(even though its not possible)
if they shrink to the size smaller than an atom you find your self in a pocket universe?

“There is an idea – strange, haunting, evocative – one of the most exquisite conjectures in science or religion. It is entirely undemonstrated; it may never be proved. But it stirs the blood. There is, we are told, an infinite hierarchy of universes, so that an elementary particle, such as an electron, in our universe, would if penetrated, reveal itself to be an entire closed universe. Within it, organized into the local equivalent of galaxies and smaller structures, an immense number of other, much tinier elementary particles, which are themselves universes at the next level, and so on forever – an infinite downward regression, universes within universes endlessly. And upward as well. Our familiar universe of galaxies and stars, planets and people, would be a single elementary particle in the next universe up, the first step of another infinite regress.”

-- Carl Sagan, "Cosmos"


On the other hand...

"Pocket universes are a type of very small parallel universe sometimes found in science fiction and fantasy. They are sometimes "attached" to a larger parent universe, making them literally pockets of space, but this is not a necessary feature and the name generally just refers to their small size. Small size can be a relative and subjective thing, however; some pocket universes are large enough to contain entire solar systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_universe


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Big C, weren't you purporting to be studying physics in college just a few days ago over in the religion forum? Or am I thinking of someone else?


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Big C, weren't you purporting to be studying physics in college just a few days ago over in the religion forum? Or am I thinking of someone else?


He claims to be an astronomy student but also thinks that each galaxy was created in its own Big Bang . . .


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Big C, weren't you purporting to be studying physics in college just a few days ago over in the religion forum? Or am I thinking of someone else?
yea it was me, this is my second month in the course we hardly got into anything yet really.....


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He claims to be an astronomy student but also thinks that each galaxy was created in its own Big Bang . . .
i was actually talking about universes each having a big bang


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yea it was me, this is my second month in the course we hardly got into anything yet really.....

lol then maybe you shouldn't act like it gives you credentials...


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i was actually talking about universes each having a big bang
chaotic inflation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaotic_inflation


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chaotic inflation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaotic_inflation


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Yes, yes. He was talking about exactly this all along.

All. Along.


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Yes, yes. He was talking about exactly this all along.

All. Along.

...and then he was gone.

Chaotic deflation, perhaps.


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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
is it true that there is a poket universe the size of an atom?
like if someone shrunk to that size(even though its not possible)
if they shrink to the size smaller than an atom you find your self in a pocket universe?


Yes, this one! cool


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(I can't believe I missed this until now...)

Is that a universe in your pocket....?


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