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vu_Quang
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Thanos Vs. Darkseid

Yesh the two big evil dc. marvel heavy hitters. who'd win? my vote goes to thanos because although darkseid has trumped superman it has been a bit of a challenge when supes gets mad enough. but who do you think would win ? sorry if this has been argued already.

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unfortunately, not only has it been argued, it has been written in a few cross over issues, and each time they showed that neither of them could gain the upper hand on each other. Also, every time when it seemed like thier would be a decision, something always interrupts them so we'll never know.


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I just hope people don't come in here and use the "Thanos has the Heart of the Universe" so he wins. Arguement.

I don't know enough about Darkseid to vote for him....so Thanos.


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If i were to seriously give my opinion, I would have to give it to Darksied becuase he's a god, while thanos is just a very very powerful near immortal being. as far as power levels are concerned they are both basically the same. with the Exception that Darkseid is naturally immortal. and unlike thanos who is merely a conduit for ambient cosmic energy, Darksied is truly a cosmic being. moreover, not only is Darksied capable of drawing power from all the ambient energy fields in the universe, he also taps into the infinite Omega Force that fuels the planet Apokolips, so theoretically, the only way to bring him down to a o level so it is possible for someone to *kill* him is to destroy the planet. In other words, as long as Apokolips lives so will Darksied. So the simple fact that thanos is a super genious, he probably would think of that and blow up the planet before he takes him on, but Darksied would still be able to power up with other cosmic energies, so from a logical point of view it would have to be a draw. but PPl might still have thier personal opinions


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I'm going with Thanos, I have not seen Darkseid do anything too spectacular yet, while Thanos is always busy. If Darkseid is a god, he is a weak one. In Cosmic Odessey, he needed his own power, plus the power of Etrigan to merely take a fraction of the Anti-Life being's power, and then had to use his new powers, along with his old powers AND Etrigan's to seal up the passage way between realities. Alot of work for a ''god''. Thanos on the other hand, has conquered the universe. I pick Thanos.


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I would not consider Darkseid's title of "god" as an argment...Thor is considered a god but he is fodder against Thanos...who is a "titan" and they r just as powerful and long lived as any gods...Darkseid has been given a lot of trouble form finite characters like superman and doomsday...however, the Hulk and X-man teamed up just to fight the Astral form of Thanos and barely survived...they r considered to have limitless power by themselves but couldnt handle a shodaw of the real thing...Darkseid's power is very understood, while Thanos has been able to engage galactus and Tyrant without the assistance of the infinity gems...it seems like sometimes he is very powerful, then sometimes he is even more powereful!...but oh well...it is DC vs Marvel so i dont think its a very viable argument...but i think Thanos is cooler


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Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.

Darkseid without it.

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Thanos.
He has been able to hold his own with such people as Odin, Galactus, Thor and Galactus's heralds. Odin has said not only has Thanos the power to use cosmic energy but he can tap into dark matter (energy maybe might have been). Im not sure of darkseids power but going against supes must give him atleast 90 tons. But it has been said that Thanos has unlimited amount of strength, he has knocked The Hulk back a few miles with little or no effort. Thanos is immortal as he has been banished from deaths realm meaning he cant go there meaning he cant die. He can teleport with some effort but im not gonna go into with what Thanos can do, long list.
I just think Thanos could take Darkseid, im not a huge fan of DC Comics but ive never realy seen any extraordinary things done by Darkseid. yes

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in mythology werent titans more powerfull than gods to an extent? besides that inquiery ill go with Thanos, but im a marvel man so its not an unbiased opinion.


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Didn't Death banish Thanos from her relm, effectivly making him unkillable? If thats true then Darkseid is gonna have a hell of a battle against a super being who can't die. But if he can die then Darkseid to take it after a hell of a battle.


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kinda off topic here but, are there any comics where Thanos comes to earth to meddle with it? I know he's a terror to the univers, but none of the comics i have him in show him going to earth.


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Thanos has that special heart, so he definatley wins.


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please read the 3rd post on this thread...


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Based on what i read and know of Thanos i have to go with him but it would b a VERY close battle. I can't find anything on darkseid but i'm sure a few of u have read this about Thanos particuarly( i can't spell today sorry) his strength level and fighting skills.

http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thanos.htm


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I see a lot of people need to do their Darkseid homework...

*His origin --- he's the son of a Promethean Giant, the only being close enough in power to Yuga to potentially kill him, he possesses the totality of an energy all of The New Gods considered ultimate power (even LOOKING at it could destroy the minds of Gods), and he's The Source's natural counter to Highfather, who's solidly Skyfather-level, and always has been under all of Highfather's portrayals from each and every author

*His "definitive writers" generally write him as Skyfather-level --- Kirby had him as, by FAR, the most powerful being on Apokolips (a planet producing beings that were shown as more powerful than Superman in his original issues) and ruled it by complete fear.

Kirby also had Darkseid casually dismiss guys like Brola (who gave Orion quite a tussle), The Forever People, and both Mantis and The Infinity Man (who were each far more powerful than Superman, and the former of which was stated as having star-system destroying blasts).

Likewise, beings like The Deep Six, Mantis, and The Gravi-Gaurds matched or overpowered those such as Superman, Orion, and the star-creating Lightray, as well as having been stated as drawing on heavy-mass GALAXIES for power, or having solar system-shattering blasts, and they all lived in absolute fear of Darkseid, acknowledging his much greater power (in fact, he GAVE Mantis his powers).


Kirby also collaborated on Super Powers vol. 1-2, where minicule fractions of Darkseid's power, handed out to Earth's villains, provide each villain with team-bashing power, and they perform feats such as devolving Superman, creating alternate universes, freezing time, and mind-controlling Green Lantern, and later, Darkseid himself defeats Superman, Dr. Fate, Green Lantern, Red Tornado, Wonder Woman, Firestorm, Martian Manhunter, The Flash, and others with no more thanb the wave of a hand.

Byrne had Darkseid slaughtering Pantheons and performing feats that expended more energy than all of Apokolips combined used (plus imprisoning the Godwave-powered Ares with a thought), Walt had him easily humbling guys like Metron, Slig, and Raker (as well as the "star-shaking" power statement), Rachel had him besting Orion and Superman in a page each, stalemating Highfather, disrupting The Source itself with his essence, ressurecting Orion easily, and effortlessly blocking Atinai's blast, Levitz wrote him doing all of those Great Darkness Saga (and its sequels) feats while weakened, D n' A wrote the Foundations feats for young Darkseid, Evanier had him eliminating Aggog and Kalibak effortlessly, as well as being a relatively close second to the universe-threatening Yuga Khan in power, Ostrander wrote all of his feats in Martian Manhunter and The Spectre, and Paul Kupperberg collaborated with Kirby for the Super Powers stuff, as well as writing him above Takion and Stayne in power.

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thanos basically wiped out the entire marvel universe, but he had the infinity gauntlet...darkseid beat all those d.c. characters with his own power and apparently no help from an out side force such as the gauntlet, or the heart of the universe. maybe darkseid is better than thanos?


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hmm...do you mean more powerfull? Im pretty sure Darkseid can take Thanos if he is not packing the infinity gauntlet or HOTU.*check Never's post to see for yourself*

otherwise who knows

or do you mean character wise? that is all about preferance. from what I know about the two Thanos seemed more interesting. but thats just me


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I'd back Thanos against most anyone.


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