umm....i dunno if anyone has posted this fight..but ah well....yeeh i think it would be interesting.....magneto with his whole lets throw metal crap at everyone and banshee with his lets scream really loud....so yeeh...ur thoughts??
Realisticly I want to say Banshee... how ever Magneto's helmet in a comic book would probably have special dampeners already installed to prevent being knocked out from a sonic scream.
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magneto's helmet is strictly against telepathic attacks, not sound attacks
magnetos ability to manipulate electromagnetism wont be able to affect banshee's sound blasts, not only would it damage magneto's brain, but it would also vibrate the liquids in his body and still cause him to barf, daze, and then knocked unconcious
banshee has stopped pieces of metal with the power of his sound blasts and sound could still travel through metal so magneto wouldnt even have a defense, although metal dampens sound banshee's sound frequencies are strong enough to travel through the metal and still cause alot damage to mags
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Ya. if Banshee could control the sound, and Black Bolt doesn't even have that level. I don't mean lack of control but being able to limit it or create a sound barrier of such disruption as to enable him to hide from his foe, i think then he would be able to beat Magneto.
Magneto's uniform and helmet are metal fiber and metal. He supplements that with his powers. I don't think a sound attack would have much of an effect on him. Much like a sound proff room, both on his body and over his head. His shield should protect him form the reverberations that would damage his exposed skin.
He might actually contain all the solid metals in the area that are absorbing the sound(all Banshees own force)in the metal then use the sound as radar to its source(Banshee). Then he could strike by releasing the pent up pressures and taping into the magnitisim of the rocks and the metal itself.
I think Magneto is the winner. He can defeat most foes without even paying any attention to them at all.
magneto cant pull the iron out of peoples blood, not the iron you get from eggs and certain foods, it has no metal properties in it whatsoever its just named iron
magneto's electromagnetic shield cant do anything against sound-based attacks, if you ever knocked on a metal wall you would hear it, therefor sound travels through metal, and the power of banshee's sound blasts would definitely pass through the metal on magneto's body and through the opening of his helmet, with electromagnetism having no defense against sound, banshee's attack would not only rupture magneto's ear-drums, but attack his brain and cause massive vibration to the water in magneto's body and cause magneto alot of pain
with banshee using sound waves to fly he doesnt even have to open his mouth to attack magneto, imo banshee wins very quickly
you are thinking in iron as a metal, and no magneto is not only able to controll metal.
"Although Magneto's power is not on the level of the Silver Surfer in his prime, it is for all practical purposes limitless. Even before his rejuvenation, Magneto once liEed a cargo freighter weighing 30,000 tons 50 feet into the air from a distance of 300 feet away. Moreover, Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. He can erec! magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability around himself for protection. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.
Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. In the past he has fired a bolt of electricity, he has also created enough intense heat to destroy a metal door. Heat, or infrared radiation, is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, which also includes visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet light, gamma-rays, and x-rays. Magneto may be able to project any of these. He has also been shown creating an anti-gravity field, and presumably does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the longsought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related. However, Magneto almost always uses only magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy.
In previous years Magneto has apparently exhibited powers of astral projection and telepathy, and has claimed to be able to control the minds of others. His abilities along these lines are minimal, however-enough, perhaps, to protect himself against mightier telepaths, but not of great use otherwise.
Magneto's ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating groat amounts of magnetic forces"
iron in blood from food has nothing to do with electromagnetism, its a vitamin, it isnt visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet light, gamma-rays, and x-rays, and radio waves by the way doesnt mean sound waves, radio waves are controlled by electricity and magnetism also (notice how speakers have magnets on them, and the huge radio towers with the metal antennas)
banshee isnt on anyones league, no one gives banshee credit, but when you think of his powers banshee can take someone out in seconds from even a very far amount of distance, im not a big banshee fan but i would consider him an underrated character although he's had alot of comic book time
and trust me using sound for flight and being able to use it the way banshee does requires immense expertise
where'd you get that info? i've never read a comic where magneto uses small amounts of telepathy, and if so i'd like to know which comic it was, samething goes for him controlling the iron (vitamin) in someones bloodstream
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he has control the iron in pplīs blood in several comics. we already talked about it, trust me, its true and he can do it. at the begining i also tough it was ridiculous, but after a brief explanation, i saw that it actually makes some sense.
well whoever wrote of magneto controlling the iron in peoples blood is extremely bad writing, the iron in food has no electromagnetic properties therefore cant be controlled by magneto, whats with all these others powers magneto has, his mutant power is manipulating electromagnetism and nothing else
i cant believe he's used powers like astral projection or telepathy with his mutant power alone
he has manipulated bloodflow to the brain to cause aneurysms or unconsciousness, but never have i read about him strictly manipulating the iron(vitamin) in someones blood
i wonder what comics he's manipulated peoples bloodflow, i have no idea how he could do it and if so then there would be very few times he's done it throughout his history, does ANYONE have any comic book referrence to when he did this?
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I think if real people had the powers of these two. The person with Banshee's powers would win... but if it is written in a comic Magneto wins on populartiy alone.
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yeah it is he's runner up for my favorite character.
What can I say I like the underdogs... Penance and Banshee... the only reason I started reading Generation X is because Banshee was my favorite... then they went and introduced Penance and Banshee got pushed aside abit.
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Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. In the past he has fired a bolt of electricity, he has also created enough intense heat to destroy a metal door. Heat, or infrared radiation, is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, which also includes visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet light, gamma-rays, and x-rays. Magneto may be able to project any of these. He has also been shown creating an anti-gravity field, and presumably does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the longsought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related.
electro-magnetics deal with electricity, thats nothing completely out there comparing to manipulating bloodflow, heat he can defintiely do, he's increased his power to absorb cold and electricity, anti-gravitiy is also something that makes sense considering his mutant power, but the bloodflow idea is just out of scope imo, i really hope someone sees this topic and have comic book referrence to when he did that
"Anyone who knows anything about biology can immediately see that Magneto's technique of mind/body control, which he uses in various early issues, Vision and Scarlet Witch I #4, Fatal Attractions, etc., cannot possibly be what he explains it as-- "controlling the iron in the blood". Even if the iron in the bloodstream could be manipulated magnetically (which, given how little iron there is, is highly unlikely), all Magneto could do by manipulating it magnetically is cause blood vessels to rupture, thus causing strokes. Brain events (such as the ability to control one's powers, the ability to lie, etc.) are mediated by neurotransmitters, which cause bioelectric activity in the nervous system. They are not caused by the flow of blood through the brain. Yet Magneto clearly does this. So how?
The fact that "bioelectricity" governs brain events may lead one to believe Magneto is doing this by controlling bioelectricity. In fact, however, bioelectricity involves very, very tiny voltages, mediated by the flow of sodium and potassium ions, neither of which is particularly magnetic. Again, Magneto should be able to stop a heart with bioelectric control, but not something as subtle as reversing brainwashing or paralyzing people's powers. So how does he do it?
Well, we know he can mess with the molecular level without serious strain (manufacturing a comb for Janet Van Dyne out of thin air by pulling together molecular iron particles in the atmosphere, of which there would by necessity have to be damned few, in Secret Wars-- sure it took concentration, but Magneto isn't going to hurt himself making a comb to impress his bedmate.) But that's still kind of thin.
Perhaps it is an emergent property of latent psionic ability."
its obvious that magneto have the abilities to cause blood vessels to rupture, thus causing strokes.
"Magneto should be able to stop a heart with bioelectric control, but not something as subtle as reversing brainwashing or paralyzing people's powers. So how does he do it?"
magneto is able to do this, in comics they normally say, he was controlling the iron in someoneīs blood, but is this scientifically possible? that is the question, we all know what he can do, but does this have a logical answer or it is simply a comic story, where everything is possible?
did you guys knew that we all have iron in our organism, really iron (metal).
i just saw an experience where they mix milk and cereals (they crush the cereals), then they put there an iman, guess what when they took out the iman, it had iron grab in it, very small particles of iron, but iron indeed.
so then youre basically saying that having iron(metal) in our organisms (i think you mean organs) and with water naturally being in our body then we would rust, and probably die by the age of 15
a theory thats only been shown in two comics doesnt make the character actually have the power, its obviously something they tried and then killed it off because it didnt go to well, its a comic book, they arent gonna give him all these extra powers and then have him basically unstoppable, seeing as the limits to his power have differed from comic to comic, sure a few writers decided to read things on electromagnetism and then found ways where he could basically do anything, but no other writers want that crap to happen, the ruin of comic books would be the day when everyone brings it to a serious scientific level and it isnt even fun anymore
imo banshee takes this one in a few seconds, his helmet has never shown resistance to sound, and banshee using sound attacks are much much faster (and less consuming) than magneto using electro-magnetism
iīm still searching more stuff about this, but trust me when i say you eat a lot of stuff that contain iron (metal). And of course i didnīt said we have iron in out lungs did i?
magneto has become more powerful trough the comic book history. so the actual magneto is way more powerful then in his first appearance
couldnīt disagree more
iīm positive that magento would destroy banshee (altough i agree that he is underrated), but i donīt care about that anymore, just want to learn more about thi iron in blood thing, tahts why iīm keep posting.
and about is psi, that is just a theory i didnīt even said i agree with that, but that magento can put a mental shield it is stated, he can.
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