UFC Style VS Tournament Lightheavy Div Please Read rules and regulations
This will be a ongoing vs project first up Lightheavies then Heavyweights . Unlike many vs this is UFC style two combatants in a octagon. And now for the rules the fight can only end in death or knockout only fighting skill and brute power and Heart. Only intelligent answer need apply you get one shot to answer and ONLY one reply to another comment made by another so Think before you answer Only one shot. All answer will be judge by Me who ever comes up with the best fight scenario answer wins. There will be Three fights in each Divension winner of this discussion has a shot at the Lightheavy Champion Belt and Bragging RIghts to all in this forum. The winner of each lightheavy weight fight Will go toe to toe in the championship fight . So there is alot at stake here Ladies Make your comments count Each fight will be open for Three days to give all A shot. Lets get Started.... FIRST UP......... Batman vs Captain America....... This starts now...
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Cap is too much stronger and more agile. Batman will try to use his superior martial arts techniques, but most of them will be blocked. Essentially Batmans blows will hurt him more than they hurts Cap. With no toolbelt, Cap will easily physically overpower Batman.
Captain America has been getting shanked on this forum and by fans in general. It should end now. He has decades of experience (he fought in WW2, for Chrissake, unless we're using different Caps). Bruce's martial arts training may be more varied and diverse, but Captain America just leverages a lot of good old wrestling, boxing, and similar American commando-style martial arts. He also knows judo and has undoubtedly picked up a few tricks.
You then add on the fact that Cappy is superhuman. He's faster, stronger, and more endurant. That means Batman has to play a duck-and-hide game, avoiding blows and getting little strikes that cumulatively bring the big guy down. All it takes is a successful grapple and Cappy throws Batman around like a rag doll till the admittedly incomprehensibly tough Caped Crusader falls unconscious.
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The problem with UFC style is medics can end the matches based on injury. There's no way to predict if one character will get off a lucky shot and break a vein or another character will sprain their elbow doing a haymaker or what.
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Cube, I disagree, Cap is peak 800lbs,
Batman is near peak close to 600lbs, that small amount of difference is nearly inconcequential, for Batmans SUPERIOR H2H combat will overcome Captian.
You may say "well cap has more fighting experience" and I'd say nope, Cap was froze and thawed, he's roughly the same experience level as Batman.
Batman is faster and more agile (ever see cap swing like spiderman fron grapple hooks and things? no)
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Also, Batmans 127 masterd forms of unarmed combat means this is a done deal.
Batman wins by a choke hold or limb lock or pressure points.
Even I know how cap would try to start this fight, he'd go into this wrestling style.
Right?
Straight for the legs, trying to take Bats legs out from under him.
Not gonna work.
Batman can lift 600lbs? That means he can lift the front end of a car over his head, no sweat. Batman only weighs about 225lbs. Unless Bruce has been using some hardcore roids recently, he isn't that strong.
At any rate, that's still a 200 pound difference. Try fighting someone that can lift 200 pounds more than you, who is an equally adept fighter, (Cap's a level seven in every book. He knows almost every form of hand to hand combat.) It's very difficult.
Cap is faster, and more agile as well.
Captain America is an olympic level gymnast/athlete. He would obviously be faster, since his leg muscles are far more developed. His reflexes are enhanced as well. No, Captain America does not swing from hooks, or webs. I've never seen Batman perform gymnastic feats like Cap either. Batman certainly is nowhere near as agile as Spiderman, if that is what you intend to imply. Swinging from a rope requires little agility. Dodging superspeed sttacks does.
Captain America is hardly a wrestler. He's an American-style Boxer first.
Batman will never be able to get a choke hold on Cap. Cap is too much stronger.
Last edited by Cosmic Cube on Mar 26th, 2005 at 05:05 AM
Olympic level gymnast/athlete? I'll give you that,
but so is Bats also, Caps heavy body (strong legs + huge muscles equal heavy) will slow him down.
He isnt more agile or faster than Bats. (I wasnt implying Bats to SM)
Never seen Batman perform gymnastic feats???? Seriously, c'mon, the guy is on DD level in gymnastic abilities.
As for the wrestling, I thought it was obvious how worthless boxing is in the octagon.
Boxing, in the big O gets you KILLED...i.e Tyson wouldnt last 30 seconds.
About fighting people who are stronger, well, remember Royce Gracie? He weighed 170lbs(he benched 200lbs) and always fought 300lb boxers, streetboxers, Kick boxers and the like(who normally benched 400-500lbs) and never lost, he had a draw once because he broke a finger accidently, he always won because of his arm locks and leg locks and joint locks, as will Bats.
Capts lactic acid builds up slower than Bats, that's HUGE but it isnt enough.
I'm not a Batfan, Cap is the man, but he is dead without his shield.
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Last edited by long pig on Mar 26th, 2005 at 05:30 AM
Cappy is apparently trained as an American style supersoldier - that means judo (a wrestling art, check out MD) and boxing. Either way, he has the superior attributes to do it.
Who relies more on gadgets, Captain or Batman? Just think for a moment. You'd then start thinking about who's more reliant on his gadgets. That in turns makes me think Captain takes it.
Does everyone forget that Captain America had a supersoldier operation? I'm starting to think Marvel should just make Captain America like Amalgam's Super Soldier and be done with it. (And why does Captain Britain get friggin Excalibur?)
Exactly, Judo is acceptable in the big O, boxing is not and will get you killed.
Thats why I said cap would start with his wrestling style.
Superior attributes?
Indeed he is superior to normal people, Batman isnt normal, he trains 5 hours a day(ill concied to slightly superior, but nothing that makes a difference).
Who relies on gadgets more? Hm.
Cap NEVER leaves without his shield, EVER.
Batman is the same with his gadgets, so they are the same in that aspect.
Except a shield isn't the same as being reliant on gadgets for ranged combat, transportation... I mean, Jesus, the man used Batskates. Batskates. One item does not a gadget whore make. A utility belt does.
Again, since this is melee combat, a "slight difference" conceded is no such thing. If someone has even half a second better reaction time than you, that means that they dodge almost all of your hits and you lose. Seriously compare yourself with someone who can lift "only" 200 pounds more than you. That's the difference between a pencil neck and a football player. Very slight differences matter in hand to hand combat.
Yeah, looking at Cappy's stats holistically, in my humble opinion he's actually pretty damn superhuman. At the very least, he is better than any Olympic athlete in every relevant physical respect. Batman may have an edge in variety of technique, but I just think tight technical performance and sheer physical advantage in every relevant respect (not just because of training but because of the project he was in) seals the deal. Especially given that he can play a waiting game and let Batman tire himself out.
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