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Kyle Rayner vs Nate Grey

They have practically the exact same personality and everything else.

Kyle Rayner - Green Lantern (Current)

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Nate Grey - X-Man (Current)


So who would win this?

(Neither get prep.)


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Nate.
Hal, maybe. Kyle, no.


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I think Kyle has a slight chance. They would go back and forth for a while, but anyone could win. I dont know the full extent of X-Man's powers but isnt it just telekenetics, psychokinesis, and manipulation of all forms of matter and energy?

All that wont work much against a GL, but theres not much Kyle could do to him however. I say stalemate. Unless anyone could prove otherwise.


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I think Kyle wins. I think Nate is extremely overrated, and he has never proven the hype that he is supposedly the stronggest mutant to ever live. (thats in Xavier's own words)


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Couldn't Nate just mess with his mind? Mindrape him? Can't he become intangible as well? I think Nate takes this. Nate is overrated, but he takes this.


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Gl's have a high resistance to mind attacks. They also have cosmic awareness, allowing to precieve high level threats that are long distances, intangible etc.

Some GL's are better at that than others though. How good Kyle is, im not 100% sure.


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GL rings protect against mental attacks, I do believe. Also, the "current" version of Nate (right before he died) had enough raw power to destroy all of the Harvesters and resurrect everyone who had died from them... He's winning by psi blasts, not mindrape

Kyle is not nearly as strong willed as Hal. His best weapon is his creativity.


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Kyle is not nearly as strong willed as Hal. His best weapon is his creativity.


I agree.

But Nate winning by psi-blasts?

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Nate's no ordinary telepath.

Xman #10

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Xavier was concerned that Nate was apparently able to shield to shield himself from Cerebro, which shouldn’t be possible, and entered the astral plane to search for the telepath himself. When he found him, Nate had just erased the memories of an entire crowd of mutant haters and, sensing that he was being watched, Nate dragged Xavier astral form into reality – something that the professor had believed impossible.


Nate's powers:

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Tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane in order to manipulate matter and energy, manifesting hard-psi to:
- levitate and direct physical objects
- fire mental force bolts
- cause violent explosive reactions in matter
- fly through the air
- shield himself and others from attack
- increase the physical power of his blows
- flow his molecules through another solid object to become intangible

and soft-psi to:
- scan for brain wave patterns
- project and manipulate thoughts
- intuitively translate new languages
- forge psi-links to travel in astral form
- generate realistic illusions out of psi-plasm
- establish mental defenses against new psionic attacks
- give substance to astral energy to solidify psychic forms or forge protective psi-armor


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Sweet.


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He has a chance, I'm just saying, once Kyle let's his guard down, it's over, and vice versa. Could go either way.


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Nate's like Cable. But after poppin some 'roids. Steroids. Psionic steroids. Big psionic steroids. Big, powerful... Ok, I'm done.


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Nate=God-Like Cable, so we actully know what Nate is capable is.


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Nate's pretty powerful, he's pretty high up in the totem pole when it comes to non-cosmic beings IMO. But against a GL? hmm...... I think Kyle edges him out a bit. As jrodslam said, GLs have a pretty good resistance to mind attacks, so that pretty much leaves out one of Nate's major abilities. On the other hand, Kyle is arguably one of the most creative GLs ever. So I think Kyle's sheer versatility will allow him to eventually come up with a way to beat Nate.

This a very good match though, and if Kyle lets up for even a second, Nate could make him pay for it.


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You know that the shields of GL don't allow anything psionic to come in?


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uhh... yeah.


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